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    Oral History Interview with Philip Firmano, January 9, 1991

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    Philip Firmano emigrated from Milazzo, Sicily. He first came to New York with his father and mother in the early 1900’s. However the family returned to Sicily in 1908 because of his father’s failing health. Philip later returned to America, to work for his uncle in Waukegan, Illinois after Mussolini came to power in 1922. In the interview he largely describes his years in Sicily, reasons for leaving Sicily, and his journey to Milwaukee. He also discusses how he and other Italians made a life in Milwaukee and the role of various Italian societies to which he belonged.AN ORAL HISTORY OF THE ITALIANS IN MILWAUKEE May, 19 91 Subject: Philip Firmano LAWRENCE BALDASSARO DIANE VECCHIO Department of French and Italian College of Letters and Science University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Funded in part by the Wisconsin Humanities Committee and The State of Wisconsin The narrator is Philip Firmano. The interview is taking place in Mr. Firmano's home on North Hackett Avenue on January 9, 1991. The interviewer is Diane Vecchio. Interviewer. Narrator. Phil lives on North Hackett Avenue in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Phil, tell me a little bit about your background. Tell me where your father and mother were born. They were born in Milazzo, Sicily. I. Was your mother also born in Milazzo? N. Yes, my mother was born in Milazzo too, yes. I. What did they do in Milazzo? [Lost some of the taping ... Phil was then discussing his family's early years in New York.] N. [Their residence in New York] 98 Union Street. I went to school there. I was only about seven or eight years old when I went to school there. Then my father got sick. We went to a specialist in New York. There wasn't a cure for it. In those days there were so many doctors, so they told my family, my mother and my father to go back to Italy probably to find, to cure him. Instead, when he got there he got worse. He was working in New York, in Brooklyn. He had about, those days, a couple of hundred dollars. As soon as he got there he opened up a store. He says in case anything happens to me then my wife and my son, they have a business. In the meantime, when I was in Brooklyn, New York, in 1904 was born a girl. My mother had a girl and then she died. In 1907 another girl was born. She is still living. Then, like I said, we went to Milazzo, opened up the store and my mother supported us. Then my mother had another boy and then another girl. We were two girls and two boys. I. And then you, your mother and your brothers and sisters returned to Milazzo. N. No. See, my brother and one sister were born in Milazzo. They already were born there. Then in 1908, like I said, there was no cure for my father. Then we went back in Sicily and they opened up a store. I. So, in 1908 you returned to Sicily. N. That's right. I. What was the business that your father had in Milazzo? N. Bread, beans, stuff like that. I. Groceries? N. Groceries. Like a grocery store. I. How long did your father live after that? I. Then my father, 1914 landed in the hospital and then he died there, and my mother supported us with the store. I. So did your mother work in the store herself? N. Sure. See, in those days most of our business was bread. She made the bread by hand in those days. They owned no machinery. The scale to weigh them and then make the loaf by hand. See, that's how my mother supported us. 2 I. That's wonderful. So, there was you and four brothers and sisters. N. We were four together, two girls and two boys. I. How old were you then, Phil, when all of this was going on? How old a child were you while your mother was working in the store to support you? N. That's right. See, it's a long story. Anyway, when the government called you for the Army, for the Navy, what it is, see. The Navy, you got to have a book, it was at least one month on a boat to be in the Marines. Otherwise you go in infantry. So, I went one month. My mother has five brothers and these five brothers were all engineers, the boat. And one of my uncles, Francisco Riolis , says, Phil, once you come with me one month or so you can get the book for the Marines. So I went to my uncle. In the meantime there was a passenger boat from Milazzo that go in the islands. All around Milazzo we have seven islands. I bet you know the islands? I. I know some of them, yes. N. Yes. See, the capital, Lipari. I. Right. N. Volcano, Stromboli, Panarea, Alicudi, Filicudi, Santa Marina. Seven islands. So the engineer for the boat there, was to pick up and deliver mail to those islands. So the engineer knows my uncle and says, you've got your nephew here with you. He says, yes, for a month because he's got 3 to have the book for going in the Marines in case they have to go in the service. So the engineer of the boat there, told my uncle to ask me if I want to go with him. See, they have a job with them. That's why I went there with them after I got my book. Then it was in 1919, then 1922 Mussolini took over Italy. I. Ok now, Phil, how old were you? N. In 1922 I was 21, because I was born in 1901. I'm 89 years old now. I. That's wonderful. N. Thank you. I. You look wonderful. N. Thank you. So then, Mussolini took over Italy. All those working on the boats, see we have a union, and this union usually they are Communists or they are Fascists or they are Socialists. I. Right. N. See, so we were on the boat Socialists. See, the Fascists, they don't like the idea Socialists work with the government. I. Now, were you a Socialist, Phil? N. Well, because I belonged to the union I was no Socialist, I don't know what was Socialist, because I belonged to the union and those that belong to the union must be Socialists. I. In other words, the Fascists believed that anyone who belonged to a union was a Socialist. 4 N. That's right. They want to give a chance to, those are Fascists. So, they cut the wages. We were working on Saturday. We called sabato inglese, Saturday English, because it came from the United States. So they cut the wages and then I got disgusted. I had an uncle in Waukegan who has a daughter in Sicily yet who went through Ellis Island. She can go through with the mother and brothers. So, then my uncle came over there, was an American citizen, pick up his own daughter. In the meantime he said to me, he said, Philip, nephew, if in case you want to come to the United States don't forget to come by me. I. Phil, how did you feel about Mussolini coming to power? Do you remember your own reaction? N. Oh, yes, one way it was ok but the other way too much domineers. See, that's why I was like 18, 19, 20 years old, nobody liked that domineer to come, somebody in the house who says you gotta do this, you gotta do that. See, I don't like the idea. That's why, my uncle says anytime you want to come to the United States don't forget, come by me. Then I was an artist, because I used to paint pictures. See, I've got a lot of pictures here, then you can see it. so, when I came to the United States I stopped in Brooklyn, New York. I had a cousin that was a brick layer and build buildings. He says, my God, with the art you got, see why don't you stay here in New York and you get introduced to be 5 interior decorator. I says no, I promised uncle Tony, Tony Palazzo. I. That's funny, because I have an uncle named Tony Palazzo too. N. Yeah? So, it was Tony Palazzo. In fact, I tell how it happened. My cousin in New York they put on a train to come in Waukegan. We call Waukegan to meet me to the station in Chicago. See, because transfer in Chicago to change the train. So, my two cousins there went in Chicago to pick me up but the train delayed and they went home and they left me there. I. So no one was there to greet you when you came in? N. So, they left me there. I don't know which train I gotta get, where I gotta get them. I was going nuts. I was going around and around until I found somebody who talked a little bit Italian. He says, listen, I take you downstairs there to pick up the train to go to Waukegan. Ok, then he put me on the train. I don't know where I should stop. I know Waukegan. I have my book, I had everything, all my things written on a piece of paper, where I should stop, Waukegan, Illinois. So on the train every station I was getting up from that seat to go by the conductor. I says, Waukegan? He says, no, no, no. Well anyway, the conductor says sit down, I'll call you when it's Waukegan. In the meantime there was a man on the train. He got up, he says, "mister what do you want?" He talked to me in Italian though. I 6 says "I gotta stop by my uncle in Waukegan that left me in Chicago. I don't know where I gotta go." He says, "well, listen," he says, "I live close by your uncle . I'll take you there." So finally this man took me by my uncle. I. That was lucky. N. So, when I got there and saw the house there. The house was on one side, junkyard was next door, lot of colored people were there. So, really I started crying. Well anyway, my cousins, one was working the electrical light, one worked in the tannery where they stretched the leather. It was not bad, it was a clean job at least. So, see, my idea as an artist I was supposed to get a good job, a better job than this one here. But anyway, I can't get a chance. I worked there close to two years. In July 1925 the company closed up for inventory. I. Now, what was the name of the company, Phil? N. I couldn't remember the name of the company. They closed up for inventory. In that month, in July, I was looking around for a job. I. Now are you living at your uncle's home at this time? N. Oh, yes. I lived there until the last minute. I just, I want to get a future for my profession I have. See I couldn't get it there. So, then in that month I have some money I want to send to my mother. I went to the bank. But anyway, Waukegan used to get the water from, Waukegan north of Chicago they have no water. They have well water. See 7 they want to get the main line, the water, from Waukegan north of Chicago. So the company, the contractor was from Chicago and the workers were from Chicago too. And they were talking Italian so I was happy, heard Italian tongue again. I says, my God, that's the only future I have here now. So I was standing up there watching. The contractor, it was early in the morning, around 10 o'clock. The contractor talked to me in American. He says, mister, you know any garage around here, because my car don't run good. It was running because from Chicago he was coming to Waukegan by car. So I told him, I know a little bit about a car, because in the meantime when I was waiting for my passport to come to the United States, see I have a cousin in Italy was working in a garage. I. So you learned from him? N. He says, Phil, in the meantime while you wait for your passport, why don't you come in the garage and learn something? It passes your time at least. So I went there and learned a little bit. So I told, when the contractor got through talking American, I says, pardon me, I couldn't understand what you say. I says, why don't you talk to me in Italian. So he told me, he says my car don't run. He says once in a while it stops. I says, listen, I know a little bit about a car. If you give me the key I'll try it. So anyway, he gave me the key. It was a model T Ford. So I tried to give it gas. It doesn't get any gas. I says, my 8 God, this is something in the carburetor. So anyway, that time there was a T on the bottom in the carburetor. I pulled the bottom down and there was a screen in there. That screen was all filthy dirt. That's why it wasn't getting enough gas. So anyway I start the car and says here's the car. The man wants to pay me any amount of money. I says, "no sir, I don't want no money, I want a job." I says, "I don't know how to handle a wheelbarrow, I don't know how to handle a shovel, I don't know how to handle a pig but for my necessity nowadays I'll do anything you want." I. Anything to earn money. N. Anything for money, see. So, no, not only that, to get out of town, because I used to make good money at the tannery too. But to get out of the town and for my future. I. Where did you want to go? Did you want to get out of Waukegan and go someplace else? N. Anyplace. See I wanted to go anyplace so I'd get out of that town. In the meantime, like I said, those boys, one was a boy of 23 years old. I was 24. The 24-year-old was from Milwaukee. To tell the story of how I got here. For me it don't make no difference, so I was looking for my future, so I could get a better job in some other place. So, his name was Joe Ardolini. His wife is still living. He's dead a long time ago. So, I said, Joe, I says, any 9 chance when we get through this job here, come with you to Milwaukee? He says, "Phil, I'm going to call my sister. If we got room for you, you come with me." Finally he called his sister. She says everything is good, bring him over. So that's how I got to Milwaukee. 1923. On tenth of July 1924 I got my citizen paper. I. Very good. N. So then I looked for a job. I couldn't talk good English so I couldn't get what I want. I. Phil, when you moved to Milwaukee and were living with your friend and his sister, what was the address? Do you remember? N. Yes. 1418 North Franklin Place. I. What part of Milwaukee was that located in? N. on the East Side, near Ogden Avenue. Ogden Avenue and Brady. I. Do you know what ward that ... N. Where the Boy's Club is now. There's a Boy's Club there now. I. What ward was that, do you know? N. Fourth Ward. I. First? N. No, Third Ward. I. So, it was the old Third Ward. N. Now it's the First Ward. 10 I. Right, now because they've changed it. N. They changed it. I. Right. N. So, then, like I says, I looked around, I couldn't find nothing. But anyway I went and worked at a tannery. I. So you worked at a tannery. N. Again, my job which I used to pull skin, stretch the skin and nail them all the way around. At night they put the heat on and the skin dried. Then in the morning you take it off, scrape it off. See, the nail, you just pinch them, the nail, it doesn't go all the way through. You just pinch them to hold the skin, stretch it. We stretch it, we apply a nail, stretch it and nail them all the way around. I. Where was the tannery located? N. On Fourth Street between National Avenue and Greenfield. I. And how did you get to work? Was it close enough to walk? N. With a streetcar. In those days there was a streetcar, there was no buses. We're talking now 1924, 1925. I. The neighborhood that you lived in when you first moved to Milwaukee, this was more or less in the heart of the Italian district, right? N. No, the heart of the Italian district was the Third Ward. Down by the Gas Light Company. On Menomonee Street and Chicago, where the Italian house is now. That was the Third Ward. I. Did you have Italian neighbors near you? 11 N. No, I wasn't living there. The sister lived up here on the East Side. The East Side had been, like I said, Ogden Avenue and Brady. And between Farwell Avenue and Franklin. I. So, your earliest years in Milwaukee were on the East Side of Milwaukee. N. 1925. Then the Boy's Club bought our house where we used to live and they built a Boy's Club there now. And then we went and moved on Brady Street, where the Holton Bridge is now. It was one house right on the corner, northwest side on Brady Street and north Water. There was one house only there. When the city bought those houses there they built a bridge, it is Holton bridge today. So Joe, this Joe here my friend, has a girlfriend who used to live on 53rd in West Allis, on National Avenue, 53rd and National Avenue. So his girlfriend's mother, the husband died, so they have the upstairs empty. It was a duplex. So then we moved to West Allis, 53rd and National Avenue. We moved there. I. You moved there with Joe, your friend? N. Yes, yes. No, no, I don't live there with him. I lived with him because he was a good boy and was a good friend. I had the opportunity to come here. I. That's right. N. So in the meantime I used to pass my time making pictures. Some I sold, some I couldn't sell, you know how it is. The artist gets rich when he's dead. I. You paint? 12 N. Yeah. See, the artist gets rich when he's dead. So I sold some pictures, some I don't. In the meantime when I was living there three houses on 53rd, two men were painters. Those painters were exterior painters. They don't know nothing about interior decorator. See they told me once you come with us one year and then we get an interior decorator for you and we get exterior. So I said it's ok, sure I said, that's my opportunity now. So I got work with them one year. In 1927 I says, "boys, I like to go on my own. I thank you very much. You gave me the opportunity to get what I want, but don't forget Philip is your brother. Anytime you need me I'm with you, still get exterior and interior." They says, "ok Phil." In the meantime they were getting exterior for them, interior for me. I used to get so much, a percentage of every job they used to give to me. Then I meet a lot of friends from my home town again, because they have a society here. Milazzese Society. I. And you joined it? N. Yes. So anyway I meet a lot of friends. On Sunday I used to help my friend paint interior, exterior for them free, just to advertise my name. Then in 1927 I went on my own. I. You started your own business? N. I started my own business. I bought a truck. No, in fact there was no truck, no pick-up truck in those days. I bought a 1922 Ford coupe. It was 1927, it was about five years old the car. So there was two rumble seats in the 13 back. I took off those two rumble seats and made boxes to carry my paint and my stepladders. I. And your supplies? N. That's how I got introduced. Then in 1928 in July there was a friend of mine, Marchese brothers, they have a home in Bayview. They were bankrupt, so I have 500Iinvestintheirhome.In1928Iboughtthehomefor500 I invest in their home. In 1928 I bought the home for 500. I didn't pay so much a month. It was a duplex. Empty lot on the side. 6,500atthattime.I.Yes.N.Thenlittlebylittle,thenIusedtobuyoldhomes,remodeling,repairingthenresellit.makeafewdollars.Thentimepassed.See,thatshowIIjoinedalotofclubsandsocieties.Iwasthechairman,Iwasthesecretaryinalotofclubsandsocieties.I.Tellmealittlebitabouttheorganizations,thesocietiesthatyoujoined.N.Whenwejoined,itwastheUnitedItalianSociety.Becausewetriedtoget,therewereabout40societiesinMilwaukee.Smallgroups.Onebyonealldisappearedbecausetheolddied,theyoungergenerationdontwanttojoin,seetheystartdying.ThenIbelongedtoGaribaldiwhichisinBayView.I.TheGaribaldiAssociationorSociety...N.Piedmontesi,Marchegiani,see.14I.Soinotherwordsthesesocietiesweremadeupprimarilyofpeoplewhocamefrom...N.Fromthehometown.I.Fromthehometown,ok.N.LiketheMalachese,Igotthepictureshereifyouwanttosee.Wegotabook.MalacheseSociety.See,theyareallpaesani,allofthesametown.See,thenwemadeanotherclubwhichwecalledColumbusClub.I.Andwhatwasthat?N.WeusedtocallitColumbusClub.ThefirstmeetingwehadonWisconsinAvenue.ThenonedaytheywreckeddownthatbuildingandwewentonCassStreet.1426NorthCassStreet.NearOgdenAvenue,rightthere.I.Whatkindofthingsdidyoudoatthesesocieties,Phil?N.Well,seewewereabenefitsocietyforhelpwhensomebodygotsick,wegivesomuchaweek.Andwhenhediedwedgive6,500 at that time. I. Yes. N. Then little by little, then I used to buy old homes, remodeling, repairing then resell it. make a few dollars. Then time passed. See, that's how I I joined a lot of clubs and societies. I was the chairman, I was the secretary in a lot of clubs and societies . I. Tell me a little bit about the organizations, the societies that you joined. N. When we joined, it was the United Italian Society. Because we tried to get, there were about 40 societies in Milwaukee. Small groups. One by one all disappeared because the old died, the younger generation don't want to join, see they start dying. Then I belonged to Garibaldi which is in Bay View. I. The Garibaldi Association or Society ... N. Piedmontesi, Marchegiani, see. 14 I. So in other words these societies were made up primarily of people who came from ... N. From the home town. I. From the home town, ok. N. Like the Malachese, I got the pictures here if you want to see. We got a book. Malachese Society. See, they are all paesani, all of the same town. See, then we made another club which we called Columbus Club. I. And what was that? N. We used to call it Columbus Club. The first meeting we had on Wisconsin Avenue. Then one day they wrecked down that building and we went on Cass Street. 1426 North Cass Street. Near Ogden Avenue, right there. I. What kind of things did you do at these societies, Phil? N. Well, see we were a benefit society for help when somebody got sick, we give so much a week. And when he died we'd give 250 those days. See anyone would die from the society, we'd give the funeral, we went there. I. Help the widows and then shelter ... N. Help the widows, yes. We'd give $250 besides. That's what the society was for benefits, that's what it was there. I. Did you also have social events where you did things with other people like dances, things like that? N. Oh, yes. We'd have a dance. Every year we have a dance, a picnic. We'd have a picnic and we'd have a dance. Sometimes some club from the United States here too, 15 sometimes invite us, so we invite them. We were about 500- 600 sometimes at a picnic. I. And where would you go for a picnic? Right in Milwaukee? N. Old Heidelberg. Old Heidelberg was the first one. Old Heidelberg on Port Washington Road. We had all of the picnics there because they have a lot of land there. I. Right. N. Like I says, I was belonging to a lot of clubs and societies. I. Did you go to church? Did you belong to a church? N. Yes, in fact, st. Rita Church on Cass Street. In 1925 we went house to house to collect money. Twenty-five cents to fifty cents in those days we used to get. I was the first one when we built a basement I donated all my paint for the church. Then in 1925 we built a church. I painted that church three times, interior decorator, I painted that church three times. I. Now what church was this, Phil? N. st. Rita, down on Cass Street. I. Alright. N. Cass and Pleasant. I. So you were one of the founding fathers of the church? 16 N. Oh yes. We went house to house to collect the money. Because I was well-known then in Milwaukee. I was the first one Italian painter. I. Is that right? N. Sure, 1927. There were very few Italians here. And mostly it was all fishermen, that's why they're farmers. Very few were from the city. Because they had the opportunity to come here. You see how it is? They come from Porticello. The fishermen town. One called the other one. You see, the whole town. I. They brought others along with them. N. That's right. That's how it happened. I was the first one to come from a city, from Milazzo. You see, I was alone here. We have a few paesani here but not many, though. Probably ten paesani, married with a family. My wife's father was from my home town too. I. Did you attend any Americanization classes when

    Oral History Interview with LeRoy Bertoncini, March 9, 1991

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    Leroy Bertoncini is the son of Italian immigrants from the Tuscany region who immigrated to Milwaukee sometime around the turn of the 20th century. His father was from Casanuovo and mother from Pisa. His interview is largely devoted to the life of Italians in the Old Third Ward. He describes the circumstances of Italians when they first immigrated such as the schools, churches, and Italian organization like the Toscana Society with which they were affiliated. He also details Italian business that were owned and operated by the old Italian community.AN ORAL HISTORY OF THE ITALIANS IN MILWAUKEE May, 19 91 Subject: LeRoy Bertoncini LAWRENCE BALDASSARO DIANE VECCHIO Department of French and Italian College of Letters and Science University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Funded in part by the Wisconsin Humanities Committee and The State of Wisconsin The narrator is Leroy Bertoncini. The interview is taking place at the Italian Community Center of Milwaukee on March 9, 1991. The interviewer is Diane Vecchio. Interviewer. Narrator. Mr. Bertoncini, tell me, where did your parents come from in Italy? They came from the Tuscany part of Italy, mother from Pisa and my dad from Casanuovo. I. Ok, do you know what business they were involved in, in Tuscany? N. In Tuscany they were mostly peasants. I. Farmers. Do you know if they owned their own land or worked for other people? N. No, they worked for other people. I. Ok. What made your mother and dad decide to leave Tuscany and immigrate to America? N. Well, they each came separately, they met over here and were married. They both came over to improve their former life. And what happened in those days, the whole family sent one person over and he earned enough money to send for someone else in his family and this way they both happened to get her. My grandfather came over because his brother sent for him. My dad came to Chicago because his brother sent for him. I. What city did your, your grandfather came [to] first, then? N. He came to Milwaukee. Dad came to Chicago, and he worked for the DePratos in Chicago which was a church building as far as altars and statues, and things like that. My dad was an artisan. I. I see. N. And he put up altars, marble altars, plaster altars, statues. And then he came and worked for Stempers here in Milwaukee many years ago and then he settled here and met my mother and they were married. I. I see, ok. So your father and your grandfather came here, got settled first. Now, how did your mother happen to come to Milwaukee? N. Well, my grandfather came here. His brother sent for him and my uncle. They were here a couple of years, earned enough money to send for my grandma, my mother and my aunt. So then their whole part of the family was here. I. And your mom and dad met in Milwaukee. How did they meet, do you know? N. That I don't know. I imagine at some Italian social. I. Sure, probably. N. Or something. And they were married in 1914 and then I was born in 1915. I. When they got married was your father working as an artisan in Milwaukee then? N. Right. I. When you were born, were you born in the Third Ward? 2 N. Right, I was born on Wisconsin Avenue just about a block west of the old Northwestern depot right next to the Juneau Hotel. I. Ok. Did your parents own their own home or did they rent from somebody? N. Not at that time. They rented. And my grandfather had a little store which sold cigars, tobacco, candy. He made his own candy, he had a little ice cream parlor. He made his own ice cream. They sold fruit. They sold that to people who were going on a trip and taking the train. They would buy their things to eat on the train while they were going to wherever they were going. I. Now, what was the name of the ••• N. Corti's. I. Ok. And this was located near the railroad station? N. Just about 3/4 of a block west of the old Northwestern depot. I. So people would stop and get their food supplies from your grandfather's store before boarding the train. Ok. In the house that you lived in when you were first born, do you know if your mom or dad were renting or boarding? N. Renting. I. Were they renting from other Italians? N. No, they were renting from, the name of the place was Dankers. They had a restaurant and saloon downstairs and we had part of one of their buildings and we lived upstairs 3 above our business place and we lived with, in them days all the families lived together, my grandfather and my grandmother, my aunt, my dad and mother, all lived together. I. So, you all lived in one apartment. N. Yeah. That's right. I. Ok. Did you have brothers and sisters? N. I have one sister. I. One sister. When was she born? N. Oh, let's see, she must have been born about 1921 or 1922. I. Ok. So, she was younger than you. Ok. In the early years of your youth, growing up in the old Third Ward, tell me what you can remember as a child. You said that you attended the school in the old Third Ward. N. I attended first grade at the Third Ward Street School. I. The Third Ward Street School, that was the name of it? N. That's right. It was right across from the church and I only went there about one year and then mother transferred me over to St. John's and I was there until I was about, well we left there and moved to the north side, I was about six and a half. But I remember the neighborhood at that time, what Wisconsin Avenue was, like the Juneau Hotel, the Martin Hotel, the homes, there used to be a car, it was an air cooled car, homes, they had their garage right next to us. And then across the street was the Marmon and the Stutz garage where they sold the old Stutz's and the old Marmon and then on that side of the street was all boarding houses 4 going all the way down, and the Elks Building, the clubhouse was not built at that time. That was built later. They were building the insurance building downtown at that time. I. Tell me what you can remember from the old Third Ward Street School. N. I really don't. First grade, no. I remember going there and that but I don't remember any of the names of any of the kids. I. Do you think they were primarily other Italian children? N. Almost all of these. I. All Italian kids, ok. Because, after all, that was .•• N. That was the center of, most Italians when they came they went there. Now there's one thing, there was a woman, and all I remember, she was a good friend of the family's, all I remember is her first name was Carlotta~ but she had been here since she was a child. She had gone to school here and was educated at least in grade school. So any of the Italian families that had any problem with the City Hall, their license or something, or they were in any trouble, they would go to carlotta. She would take them to the City Hall or to a lawyer, whatever they had to do, and she was / more or less the interpreter, as most of these people did not speak much English at that time and she had been educated here. So for years she did that, that was part of, so I imagine some, well, none of the old timers would be left that would remember her. 5 I. Do you know if the teachers at this school, did any of them speak Italian do you think? _ - ~ N. I don't think so. I. Ok. So they would have been trying desperately to teach these children how to speak English as quickly as possible I would assume. N. I imagine the other classes, five and six, and eighth grade they would have problems but I don't think they had much problems with the first graders because they were born here and they immediately picked up some English anyway. I. Right. Tell me, why do you think Italians settled in the old Third Ward when they first came to Milwaukee? What was there in the old Third Ward that attracted Italians? N. Well, first place I think the church, which most Italians are Catholic. And then as one family moves in, anybody in that city, that town in Italy that came here, he went looking for him and he would live close to him and they would help each other. And so that was actually, if you go down there, they were all from different sections of the county and they all lived very close to each other. So I imagine that's the one reason they all gathered down there so they could help each other and of course they could talk to each other. I. They created little ethnic enclaves. N. That's right. 6 I. Do you know what industries existed? Were there any big industries that may have attracted Italian immigrants to the Third Ward? N. Well, there was Paten Paint, that's where my grandfather worked for awhile. My uncle worked for the railroad and quite a few of the Italians worked for the streetcar company laying tracks and things like that. Some of the others worked in construction. At that time they were building roads, they were putting in sewerage systems, tunnels, and they did most of the labor work. And then of course some of them opened their Italian grocery stores and I remember there were quite a few down there. And then there was, I remember, Maniaci's. That was a shoe store. Most of the Italians bought their shoes for their children there, which was just a couple blocks away from the church, south of the church. I. Now this is Our Lady of Pompeii Church? N. Right. I. Ok. What other businesses to you recall? Any other businesses? N. No. Taverns. I. Were there a lot of neighborhood taverns that were owned by Italians? N. Oh, yeah. A lot of them. And small, little restaurant type taverns. Some were just taverns. There was a night club 7 down there and then there was, they worked in the spaghetti factory, which was just a block away from the church. I. Do you remember the name of the spaghetti factory? N. I think it was Milwaukee Spaghetti, I'm not sure. I. Alright. N. And then there was some, they worked in some of the tanneries. I. Oh, so there were tanneries in this area as well. N. Well, not down there. They were further up towards the north side alongside the river and that. I. Ok. So, if most of the Italians worked and lived in the old Third Ward they most likely could walk to wherever they worked? N. Walking, and of course at that time they had streetcars. I. Streetcars, sure. What about women? Do you think that most of the Italian wives and mothers stayed home or did some of them feel a necessity to go out and work? N. Well, there were a few. There were a couple of women. I remember one was Mrs. Romano, now she was a nurse and she worked for the City and in fact my aunt for awhile helped her out. They would visit the families then they had children or things like that, if they needed any help, help them with these children. And they made calls all down the Ward to see if anyone's sick that needed any help, someone had chicken pox. I. Public health nurse? 8 N. That's right. They were public health nurses. My aunt was • one for awhile. I. What was your aunt's name? N. Jeannette Corti. She was only a nurse maybe a couple of years before she got married. I. If there were any women who worked in factories, were there · factories available for women do to work in, any factories that would have hired women? N. Most of the women that did work that I knew at that time and later on, they generally worked for tailors and things like that, doing, seamstress and making suits, working in some of the better clothing stores downtown that made suits to order and things like that. There were quite a few of them working. I. Alright. N. But there were not too many of them working because they all raised large families so they had a job at home. I. That's right. Do you know if many of the Italians bought large homes that they could break up into apartments so that they could board out, they could take in boarders to earn money? N. Well, there were some of them. That I really don't, I knew of some that were in our part, the northern part of Italy. Some woman and her husband would come here and either rent a larger home and they'd have, as these men came over they 9 were boarders in there. They'd sleep there and eat, have their meals there. There were a few of them that I know of. I. And they would board until they had enough money? N. Just across the street from where our store was, was a whole line of boarding houses. They were like small hotels but they really were boarding houses where a man had one room or two men shared a room and they worked and they either ate there or they ate in one of the restaurants that was on Wisconsin Avenue. I. And were these boarding houses privately owned by a husband and wife, like a family? .N. Well, more or less a family owned them. I. So the wife probably would, if she provided boarding she probably would be the one to cook for these boarders. N. Then another thing the Italians did, there were maybe 10 of them, they all, at that time there was no taxi company in Milwaukee, and they owned what was known at that time as jitneys, and they were small cars and larger cars and if you had to go somewhere, like to a hospital or somewhere, they would hire a jitney if they had to go, maybe it was 10, 15, 20 cents, and to take them to. a hospital or to visit somebody, or if there was a funeral or so, the ones with the bigger cars would be the hearse. I. Now, exactly what is a jitney? 10 N. A jitney is just a car. Instead of calling it a taxi at that time, the word was jitney. I. I see. N. You could rent them for a nickel, a dime, all depends where you were going. I. As far as your parents go, did they continue to speak Italian in the home or did they learn English? N. They learned English but in the home I think most of the time families, I learned Italian in the home, I speak Italian, but I learned it in the house, never in school. I. From your parents. N. Well, my grandma lived with us, she was the cook and if I wanted to eat I had to talk Italian. Very simple! I. Did your parents ever to go Americanization classes or citizenship classes? N. My mother went to school. I. In this country? N. In the Third Ward School. When she got her she must have been maybe 10 or 11. I think she was 10. And her and my aunt did go to school for awhile anyway. And then she worked as a seamstress until we opened the small business and then she helped my grandfather and they took turns running, because the store stayed open until almost 12 o'clock at night. Because as long as the trains kept going they stayed open. I. Right. Do you know how far your mom went in school? 11 N. That I really don't remember. I. But she did attend school in the old Third Ward and then she worked as a seamstress. N. For a year or two. I. And do you know who she worked for? N. No. I. Ok. And then she started working in your grandfather's store. Did she continue doing that after she married your father? N. Yes. Well, my dad also helped, the store was owned by my grandfather and my dad, my dad worked out though. I. I see. Alright. N. All businesses were more or less family owned. I. Mom and pop, right? N. Mom and pop, brother and sister, anybody. I. Yes. So your mother then just continued working, after she had you and your sister as well? N. Well, yeah, but then of course at six and a half we moved, and then mother never worked again. I. I see, ok. Now, when you moved out of the old Third Ward you said you moved to the North Side? N. North Side. I. Ok. And what led your father to that move? N. Well, my dad was working steady, my grandfather's health was starting to fail, so the whole family decided. My aunt had 12 gotten married in the meantime, my sister was born, my cousin was born. So the two, my uncle and my dad got together and they bought a large home where we all lived for a period of maybe about almost eight or nine years. And then by that time they had accumulated enough interest in the home that they sold it and then they each went and bought their own. They worked from the bottom up. I. One step at a time. Where did they buy this house? Do you remember the address? N. 824 North Booth Street. That's the old numbers. I. Alright, but that's what it was ••• N. Just off of Booth and North, on Booth between North and Meinicke. I. And this was in the 1920s? Late 1920s or so? N. Well, no, earlier, maybe 1922.· I. Early 1920s you moved out. Then did you and your sister continue school on the North Side? N. We went to school on the North Side. I. What school did you go to there? Do you remember? N. In those days they had a school that you would go to second, third and fourth grade, then you'd go to another school fifth, sixth and seventh and eighth grade and then you would go to high school. So you just kept jumping from one little school to another. So I went to Weil Street School, North Pierce Street School, and I ended up graduating from St. 13 Paul's. So I, in fact, I even went to st. Casimir's for • about two weeks. I was working up the line. I. Right, ok. Now, is your dad still working as an artisan all of these years? N. All of these years and then finally he started his own business, Modern Art Company. I. The Modern Art Company. N. Which I still have. I. Alright. Now, tell me a little bit about that company. N. We went into making art work in plaster, figurines, wall plaques and things like that. And so my dad had that business. Well, the Modern Art Company is around 50 years old. I. And where is the business located? N. Well, right now I just got through selling the building and my business is with a friend of mine. I'm semi-retired and I'm just playing with it as a hobby. But we started on Third between Brown and Lloyd, across from Niss Furniture. And built another addition to it and then when I bought the business from my dad and he retired then I moved to 24th and Lisbon and I sold the building about three years. ago. I. · I see. Now, did your father continue working in churches? N. Well he worked in churches until he started, and he went into business with Mr. Angeli which has, his son has a business that I'm now in with, I mean I use his shop, and they were partners for awhile, then they separated and each 14 started their own small business. The people from Tuscany all want to own their own business. I. Very entrepreneurial, right? N. That's right. They had to start something. I. Are there many Italian immigrants here from Tuscany? N. Well there were quite a few. Now mostly their offspring are left and they sort of moved all over but at one time we had an Italian society called the Toscana which I'm still the president of. We have an amazing amount of 6 members still alive. But at one time we must have had 30-40. And you had to be from Tuscany to belong. Or you had to marry a Tuscany girl, then you were allowed. So there must have been at least 40-50 families from Tuscany. I. And about what year was this? N. The society starts, in fact, I think it's the oldest Italian society in the state of Wisconsin. It started around 1910 or 1912, something like that. And it started for the simple reason that the Italians did not have insurance and this was a form of small society that if someone got sick they gave them a dollar a day and maybe 100burialmoney.Ithinkdueswere75centsoradollaramonthsoitwasnobigdeal.Butatthesametimeitgavethemsomething.Ifthemangotsickatleasthisfamilyhad100 burial money. I think dues were 75 cents or a dollar a month so it was no big deal. But at the same time it gave them something. If the man got sick at least his family had 7 a day because there was no where to go but to your friends or society. That was it. 15 I. There must not have been too many Tuscans living in the old Third Ward, right? N. No. The only ones I know were the Pucinellis and there were the Andreatis and, let's see who else. I can't remember the other person's name. I. There were a few but not too many? N. Yeah, there weren't too many, oh, the Tortis. I. What about other than Sicilians? Were Sicilians the predominant Italian group? N. Yeah, the southern part of Italy, not only just Sicilians but anywhere from Rome, south of Rome, seemed to get close to the Third Ward. That's where they started from. Then they kept moving up to Brady Street and in through there. The northern Italians like the people from Venice and things like that, they congregated more into the South Side, Bay View and that, you'll still find, all out there. I. So, there are northern Italians who settled in this area. I didn't realize that. N. And way up along the Austrian border and that. Most of them started out, they started living in Bay View and they're still out there. There are still Italian stores out there and restaurants and taverns and that, that are Italian. I. Now, tell me, you married an Italian woman? N. Right. I. You did. Was she an immigrant or the daughter of immigrants? 16 N. Daughter. I. The daughter of immigrants. And where did her family immigrate from? N. They immigrated from Venice and they moved to Iowa. I. No kidding! N. They went to Iowa. Her dad was a miner and they moved there and, unfortunately, he died after, he must have been here about four or five years and he passed away. Then my mother-in-law moved to Chicago with the three children and she had a boarding house. People from Venice and northern Italy, they were boarders in her home when they first came here. And then she eventually got remarried and then they moved to Milwaukee. And the northern people are mostly your terrazzo workers, tile setters and things like that. Each section of the country seems to specialize in something. I. Right. So, your mother-in-law supported her three children more or less from taking in boarders? N. That's right. I. But then she remarried? N. Then she remarried and then they moved here. I. They moved to Milwaukee and that's when you met your wife. And what year did you marry her? N. 1941. I. And what is her name? N. Ida. I. And what was her maiden name? 17 N. Chenet. I. That's an unusual sounding name. N. It's a French name but they're living very close to the border. I. Ok. That explains it. Did you and Ida have children? N. One. I .. One c

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    Anthony Guardalabene, born in 1919, is the son of Giovanni Battista and Angela Bellante who emigrated from Sicily to Milwaukee in 1897-98. In his interview Anthony discusses his schools days in the Third Ward, his attendance at Lincoln High, and the strong sense of community that was present amongst the Italians in the Third Ward. He also details the family’s business, Guardalabene Funeral Home, which his father started in 1915 and Tony took over after serving in World War II.AN ORAL HI STORY OF THE ITALIANS IN MILWAUKEE May, 19 91 Subject: Anthony Guardalabene LAWRENCE BALDASSARO DIANE VECCHIO Department of French and Italian College of Letters and Science University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Funded in part by the Wisconsin Humanities Committee and The State of Wisconsin The narrator is Tony Guardalabene. The interview is taking place at the Italian Community Center of Milwaukee on March 9, 1991. The interviewer is Diane Vecchio. Interviewer. Narrator. Tony, tell me about your parents and their lives in Italy before coming to this county. My dad and mother were both born in Sicily, my mother in Sant'Elia and my dad in Porticello. My dad in Porticello, his trade over there was a barber and my mother came to this country, her name was Angela Bellante and she came here in 1897 and my dad one year later, 1898, and came directly to Milwaukee. I. Now, your mother came first you said. N. My mother came first, right. I. And they were already married? N. No, they were not married. I. How did she happen to come here first, then? N. My uncle, Tony Bellante, was already here and I think he came about the same time that Tom's father came here, in about the same period of time and that's how my mother came here and my grandmother. I. Called for her. And then your father came over the next year. N. The following year my dad arrived here in Milwaukee. I. And what was the connection bringing him here? Was there somebody calling for him? N. Probably so. I don't know exactly but I'm sure that he came here because of letters that friends of his wrote telling him to come here and telling him of the opportunities, and so forth. I. Very common. N. And then once he came here he did open up a barber shop in the Third Ward and then later on, I should go back a little further, because when he first came he got a job with the railroad and wound up working up in Hancock, Michigan. And then to make extra money on the side he would cut hair. With the money that he made up there he came back to Milwaukee, opened up the barber shop, but at the same time he had purchased some horses that did work for the County and so from there. And then back in 1915 he started the funeral business, so we've been in the business since i915. I. When did he meet your mother? N. Oh, shortly after he arrived in Milwaukee. He saw this lady and fell in love with her and he married her. I. And they were both living in the Third Ward? N. Both living in the Third Ward. I. When your mother was here as a young woman before she married your dad, did she work at all? N. No, she didn't. I. She did not. When your father and mother got married did your mother ever work outside of the home? N. No. 2 I. After they married they also settled in the Third Ward. N. That is correct, yes. I. Did they, for instance, board or rent from other people before, while they were saving money for their own home? Do you know about that? N. No. I think they were renting or had their own home. I don't recall. I know my dad had his home, but my mother I don't know. My uncle Tony Bellante worked for the City. He was a supervisor in the garbage collection department at the time and had a few people that he had working under him. Then after that he went into the banking business and he was president of the Columbia Bank. And that went haywire during the days of the Depression. I. What year were you born, Tony? N. 1919. I. So, your youth was spent in the old Third Ward. N. That is correct. I. You went to schools down there. N. Andrew Jackson. I. Andrew Jackson School, ok. N. And from there to Lincoln High School. I. And I imagine that most of your classmates must also have been Italian. N. All of them were. 3 I. All of them! Were any of your teachers able to speak Italian, or they just spoke English and expected that all these little kids would learn how to? N. Yes. I don't recall, except at Lincoln High School we had 1 or two Italian teachers. That's all I could recall right now offhand. I. Right. Do you recall working with any of the nuns who were sent here from Italy? Do you remember any of them? N. Sure, I recall when they first came to this county. They lived right next door to the Pompeii Church and we lived just around the corner. We could see their back yard from our back yard. I. Is that right? Do you remember Sister Dio Mira or Sister Crucifix? N. Very well. I. Do you really? What can you tell me about them? N. They're lovely, beautiful people, they really are. You can't say anything but good about them. They're saints, they really are. I. And they came here to work with the Italian families? N. When they first got here in 1932, why the home that they were occupying, they didn't even have any beds. They just slept right on the floor on mattresses. I. Did the Italian people try to help them? N. Oh, all the Italian people did. The nuns of St. Joan Antida are held in high esteem. 4 I. N. Are they? By the Italian people here? Definitely so. I. That's great! Going back to your education, as a young schoolboy, what kinds of things did you and your friends do in the old Third Ward when you were growing up? What kinds of activities, social activities, sports, did you participate in? N. Well, we played a lot of basketball, softball, tag football. So we were involved with sports all the time because that was the only thing, the best thing that we could have done at that time. We made up our own games and we never had any fancy ice skates or roller skates. We had worn out baseballs and so forth. But we all managed. I. Your parents obviously spoke_ Italian in the horne and so you grew up learning to speak Italian as well. N. That is correct, yes. I. So most of your friends probably were bilingual. Most of these kids learned Italian in the horne and learned English or spoke English because it's your native language. N. That'S correct. I. Did your parents also encourage you to stay in school and graduate from high school? Was education valued by them, do you think? N. Yes it was. It certainly was. And they tried to do whatever they could to keep us going to school and we never faltered in our education. 5 I. So your dad goes into the funeral business in what year? • N. 1915. I. And was that business located in the Third Ward? N. It ·was in the Third Ward, driginally in the Third Ward. I. And it was called the Guardalabene Funeral Home? N. That is correct. I. And I would assume that most of his clients were Italian. N. That's right. I. That's a strange word to use. So you must have had a lot of dealings with Italian families for years then. N. All my life. I. All your life. How did you get interested in the business? N. After I graduated high school then I went to Marquette for a year and I guess that must have been the time when my dad asked me, see I was the last one, but he asked me to get into the business, which I did. And I went to mortuary school, graduated there in 1940, got my license in 1941 because I had to wait until I was 21 in order to take my State Board exams. Then right after that into service. Like Tom [Busalacchi], we were there for about 4 years each. We came back, worked there ~ull time ever since. I. Now, I forgot to ask you about siblings. Did you have brothers and sisters also? N. Yes. There were eight in our family, four boys and four girls. I. But you were the only one to follow in the family business? 6 N. Right. I. What do your brothers and sisters do? N. My oldest brother was a doctor, an M.D., and 2 other brothers had taverns and then went to work at the brewery and then I of course into the mortuary, funeral business. I. So you've been with the business since, what year did you say you entered the business? N. Well, I entered into the business, I got licensed in 1941, but prior to that I used to help my father because at that time most of the funerals were in the homes. It isn't like today. Things were much tougher, harder. I. Oh, I bet. So, when did you move from taking care of people in the home to a regular funeral parlor? N. It was probably back in the mid 30s, I guess. I. Mid 30s. What was it like to be in charge of a mortuary business when you had to deal with people in their homes? It must have been very difficult. N. It was difficult in that you had to bring everything into the homes such as chairs, the ferns that went around the casket, the Catholic equipment, everything else. It was tough. I. If it's possible, tell me a little bit about your experiences dealing with these Italian people during periods of grief. I mean, you really are dealing with people at ... N. At a very difficult time. 7 I. Yes, at the most emotional time of their lives. What is it like for you? N. It's not easy, that I guarantee you, and knowing the people themselves you're part of them. It isn't that they're total strangers. They're not. None of our people have ever been strangers and consequently we've always been right in there with them. When they grieved and hurt, we grieved and hurt also with them. That's how close we were. I. Your history goes back a long time with these people. N. That's right. From childhood. So, it isn't that you can ••• , until today when we see each other, we're just like brothers and sisters. We hug and we kiss each other and we have a lot of respect for each other. As it should be. I. That's right. Now, when did you get married? N. I got married in January, 1947. I. Did you marry a woman who was from an Italian family? N. No. She's German. I. She's German. One of Milwaukee's Germans? N. One of Milwaukee's Germans. I. And you had children? N. Three sons. I. Di~ any of them follow in the family business? N. Yes, my son, James. Jimmy. I. So you've got one son. And will he take over the business then someday. 8 N. Well, hopefully. See I sold off my business back in 1979 and joined with the Schmidt-Bartelt Funeral Home and so my son now is working with them and helping them out. So that's it. I. Now you were both talking about this effort to recreate the camaraderie with the people from the old Third Ward. And you see this as more or less the springboard for the growth of the Italian Community Center. N. That's right. I. Do you feel that the destruction of the old Third Ward added to the desire for people to create something like this? N. I believe so. I. Yes? N. I believe so, because people started to scatter through different parts of Milwaukee County, some even into Waukesha County, and so some of the fellas always spoke about getting together and having us get together, so consequently we called it the Third Ward Reunion. And from there, we started in late 1969 but our first reunion was in September of 1970 and it was held at the old Knights of Columbus (on 14th and Wisconsin). I don!t recall what branch of the Knights of Columbus, but anyway, when you get 700 and more fellas together. And we even had people that came from out of state, California, New Jersey, Michigan. Some came from Texas. When they heard about it they wanted to be part of it. And the same thing happened when we had the other 2 9 reunions. They wanted to be part of it and they came here. (We charged 5aperson;thesecondonewas5 a person; the second one was 15 a couple; the third one was 17.50acouple;thatwasreasonable).Buttheygotmorethantheirshare,justbeingtogether,thefoodwasincidental.Ithinktheywouldhavepaid17.50 a couple; that was reasonable). But they got more than their share, just being together, the food was incidental. I think they would have paid 100 just to be together. I. What are your fondest memories of the old Third Ward? N. My fondest memories of growing up in the Third Ward was the fact that we were one. We weren't separated. When we saw each other again we were collectively one. I. A real community of people. N. Those are my most beautiful memories, the friendship that you made which is everlasting. We used to tell our children about these things, and they thought we were telling them stories. Until they saw what we were talking about, they saw it in front of them. It did me a lot of good just to see that my children did understand how close we were. I. Right. Do you think it's because the old Third Ward was so predominantly inhabited by Italians who lived one after another, they were so closely intermingled and - they recreated ... N. Because we all helped each other. I. You helped each other. N. Yes, right. I. How did you help each other? In what way? 10 N. Well, first of all if someone needed some help, if a mother gave birth then you had these other people who would come to the house and who would do the washing, who would do the cooking, you know, helped each other. Ways of that type. We were wealthy people down in the Third Ward, not monetarily but rich in everything else, friendship, respect, love, and all that. Because our parents taught us many things, responsibility, love, honor, all those fine things. I. All those solid values. N. That's what they taught us. That's how we all grew up. I. Were things like baptisms and first communions big celebrations among the Italian people? N. Yes. I. What would a first communion be like? The church kind of held the people together. Would an Italian family have a big party following a first communion or a baptism? N. Yes. I. Did they? N. Sure. At home. It all depends on the person, sometimes they would rent a hall. I. Oh, really? N. And invite differ~nt friends over, or everyone, come on over, open house. (Years ago weddings were two days; when we were kids, they were two day affairs). I. Wow! What's the greatest strength of the Italian community today in Milwaukee? 11 N. Today? I. What's their greatest strength do you think? N. I think the greatest strength we have going for us right today is just those that grew up in the Third Ward that are still living. Those are the ones that are really holding things together. The children do not seem to participate as they should. I. Really? Do you think that the children of your generation have lost a strong identification with their Italian background? N. Well, possibly. We've spread out, intermarriages (intermarriage had a lot to do with it). From the Third Ward we went to Fox Point, we went to Wauwatosa, places like that, you know. (People from that generation are Italian in name only, they don't know nothing about themselves.) What you're doing is fine, I mean, in that you could give sort of a history of really what is taking place in the Italian community today. I. Yeah. Well, it seems to me at least from my view as an outsider that the Italian Community Center more or less attests to the fact that there is a strong desire among the Italians in this city to never forget their roots and continue this camaraderie and all of the things that bring Italians together . N. Years ago this was part of what our parents wanted was to keep things together. They had the Casa Colombo (they had 12 Italian societies). Each group, that's why collectively • they had the Casa Colombo, made up of the different societies. That was their intent - also to build something like we· have today. Probably not as grandiose as this is, ·but at least they were looking forward in that direction. So, with each generation growing up they were all looking forward to building an Italian Community Center. It just didn't start with us. It started with our parents many years ago. I. And it's finally reached fruition with your generation. N. That's true. But, like you said, maybe it was the knocking down of the old Pompeii Church. I. That led to something good in the end! Anything else that you'd like to say, Tony? N. No, that's, one great thing about the Italian people in this community is that those that had problems or were in trouble, that was less than half of 1 ~ 0. And that's what's going for us, because we had what I call the first generation we might call the second generation, but the fact is that we had, of our first generation, we made tremendous strides in that we had lawyers, dentists, doctors, teachers, engineers, presidents of different companies, vice presidents of different companies in Milwaukee, that people are still living. And so we won't take a back seat to no one. 13 I. That's I think what's impressed me most is that the Italians in Milwaukee have been very successful, not just economically but, educationally, status, they have really achieved. It seems to me that the Italians in Milwaukee have really been successful. Great! Thanks a lot. N. You're welcome. [Pause .•• Tony wanted to mention his parents' names.] N. Well my dad's name was Giovanni Battista, John the Baptist. And of course, I had told you my mother's, her name was Angela Bellante. 1

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    Manuscript map; watercolor paint on watercolor paper.; Includes text and illustrations of animal and mythical creatures whose existence has not been proven.; "VANTH 2014" -- lower left sheet

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    4th edition.Road maps with tourist features.; Relief shown by gradient tints and spot heights. Depths shown by gradient tints.; Also covers Dalmatia and Istria (regions of Croatia).; Titles from panels.; At head of panel titles: International Travel Maps.; Croatian Coast map oriented with north toward the upper left.; "© ITMB Publishing. 2014."; The Croatian Coast map is printed in northwestern/southeastern segments.; Includes notes, indexes of places, 2 title panels, and color illustrations.; Insets: Ljubljana [city center] -- [Northeastern Slovenia] -- [Biševo and Svetac islands vicinity].;[Republic of Slovenia] -- Croatian Coast.;Color;1:225,000 (E 13°22ʹ--E 15°56ʹ/N 46°43ʹ--N 45°21ʹ).; 1:325,000 (E 13°12ʹ--E 18°38ʹ/N 46°08ʹ--N 43°13ʹ).

    Brazil 2014

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    Includes text and illustrations.The map, developed jointly with WHRC/EDF/COICA, presents for the first time quantitative information on the amount of above-ground carbon contained within the indigenous territories and protected natural areas of the Amazon region; a topic that had previously only been assessed in qualitative terms. The recorded amount has global significance and is comparable to the carbon stocks found in the tropical regions of Africa and Asia.Color;1:5,000,00

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