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The Gospel on the Margins: The Ideological Function of the Patristic Tradition on the Evangelist Mark
In spite of the virtually unanimous patristic opinion that the evangelist Mark was the interpreter of Peter, one of the most prestigious apostolic founding figures in Christian memory, the Gospel of Mark was mostly neglected in the patristic period. Not only is the text of Mark the least well represented of the canonical Gospels in terms of the number of patristic citations, commentaries and manuscripts, the explicit comments about the evangelist Mark reveal some ambivalence about its literary or theological value. In my survey of the reception of Mark from Papias of Hierapolis until Clement of Alexandria, I will argue that the reason why the patristic writers were hesitant to embrace the Gospel of Mark was that they perceived the text to be amenable to the Christological beliefs and social praxis of rival Christian factions. The patristic tradition about Mark may have little historical basis, but it had an important ideological function in appropriating the text in the name of an apostolic authority from the margins or periphery
Mark Purdom at Ramp
A review on the EyeContact website by Peter Dornauf of Mark Purdom's photographs from the series 'Under', exhibited at Ramp Gallery, Wintec, Hamilton, New Zealand
The sense of a beginning : Bakhtinian dialogic criticism on 'the gospel' in Mark.
Contemporary literary approaches have caused paradigm shifts in Biblical Studies in the last two decades as it appears in a great deal of Markan studies using narrative, reader-response, deconstructive, feminist, and new historicist approaches. However, literary studies on the Gospel of Mark have not taken into account theoretical questions underlying those approaches. As a result biblical critics are driven by new trends without ever having a chance to examine the critical baggage of the approaches. Consequently, there is a gap of communication between the old and the new one. Therefore this thesis is an attempt to meet the need of enhancing the quality of critical endeavour in biblical studies. In the light of most recent competing critical theories of literature, the first contribution of this thesis is the methodological finding that Bakhtinian dialogic criticism contains the most profound philosophical and practical foundations for solving some crucial theoretical problems in contemporary literary theories. It is a critique to a Saussurian linguistic system of language which becomes the very foundation of modern and postmodern literary criticism. Bakhtinian literary theory shifts the foundation of literary criticism on linguistic signs into the creative activity of the socio-cultural production of human communication. The shift into socio-cultural reality of language communication makes the notion of 'genre' very important to unlock the problem of text and context in literary studies. Since the Gospel of Mark has fascinated most literary critics in Biblical Studies, the problem of 'genre' of this gospel is chosen as the focus of this study. Secondly, as no agreement is reached as to what 'genre' the Gospel of Mark belongs, this thesis makes its contribution to the discussion by locating the problem of 'genre' of Mark in the context of genre theories and argues that the Bakhtinian suggestion to find genre in the socio-cultural sphere by analysing artistic intercourse between narrative agents in Mark has freed the competing analysis from the unresolved problem between the kerygmatic (content oriented) approach and the analogical (form oriented) approach. To achieve finding 'genre' in the socio-cultural sphere, this thesis focuses on Bakhtinian analysis of the process of artistic intercourse between narrative agents. The narrative communicative interrelationships between narrative agents is constructed in this thesis as a 'stereophonic' Bakhtinian model of dialogic communication. This model is an original contribution of this thesis for revising the traditional two dimensional model of narrative communication. Based on this dialogical model of communication, a special role is given to the Bakhtinian 'author-creator' in the realization process of genre through the interaction of polyphonic voices. Through the interaction of voices of the author-artist and the hero we are led to discover a relatively stable type of portraying and controlling reality in Mark, known as the genre of Roman 'satire'. The closest literary affinity is Satyrica by Petronius. This narrative strategy of 'satire' in Mark has its root in the prophetic discourse of the Old Testament which is saturating the speech of the narrator, John the Immerser, the centurion, the people, and even Jesus. Finally, the whole search for Markan 'genre' culminates in the analysis of the realization of genre through the analysis of Bakhtinian chronotope. The reality of the genre of Mark is its social reality that is in its role as dpxrj/ 'beginning'. As the Gospel of Mark proclaims itself as 'a beginning', it defines its claim of socio-cultural 'authority' in early Christianity. It is this 'sense of beginning' which enables the narrating and the narrated world of Mark to interact dialogically
Democracy Sausage with Mark Kenny: The prosperity gospel
On this episode of Democracy Sausage, Peter Martin and Marija Taflaga join Mark Kenny to discuss religion, politics, and the upcoming federal budget. Should national leaders leave their faith ‘at the door’ when making decisions while in office, or is it more important that those leaders articulate how their faith influences their decision-making? What role has religious identity played in Australian politics in contemporary history? And how does the Australian Government plan to achieve its unemployment targets? On this episode of Democracy Sausage, pod regulars Peter Martin and Dr Marija Taflaga join Professor Mark Kenny to discuss religion, identity politics, and the federal budget
Ingenious: the unintended consequences of human innovation
The trouble with innovation is that it can seldom be undone. We invent technologies to modify our environments in immediately beneficial ways, but the long-term consequences can be costly. From obesity to antibiotic resistance, we pay for our successes. Peter Gluckman and Mark Hanson explore what happens when our creations lead nature to bite back
Peter Mark, viola (Estados Unidos)
Concierto interpretado por el violista en compañía del pianista London Young. El violista Peter Mark, formado en la Columbia University y en el Conservatorio Juilliard, viene siendo aclamado en varias partes del mundo. Recientemente, y como primer violista del famoso Coro y Orquesta de Robert Shaw, ha recorrido Suramérica, Rusia, Yugoeslavia y Berlín, en gira organizada por el Departamento de Estado de los EE. UU. También ha sido violista con la Orquesta Sinfónica de Trieste (Spoleto), Orquesta Sinfónica de América y Orquesta de Cámara de Princeton, bajo maestros como Leopoldo Stokowski, Paul Hindemith, Jean Morel y Tomás Schippers. En 1964 fue el solista de viola de la Opera Lírica de Chicago
Peter Bowers and Bill Arnold
Peter Bowers and Bill Arnold both worked for the Randolph Mountain Club as caretakers at the age of sixteen, a position normally held by college students or older. They talk about being friends at a young age and how they got the job as caretakers for the Club. They speak of what their duties were, hiking the trails, and some of the fun experiences they had. They mention the worst jobs they had to do, the scariest experiences they had, what they did for fun, what they ate and whether working for the RMC influenced their careers. Bill also mention the riot of 1979 in which a bunch of students were at the RMC drinking and how the state police, Forest Service and RMC all went up to take care of the situation. Peter and Bill still remain friends to this day and seem to have really enjoyed the time they spent at the Randolph Mountain Club.
Keywords: History, Biography, Randolph Mountain Club1
Oral History Cover Sheet
Name: Peter Bowers and Bill Arnold
Date of Interview: August 6, 2010
Location of Interview: Randolph, New Hampshire
Interviewer: Mark Madison
Brief Summary of Interview: Peter Bowers and Bill Arnold both worked for the Randolph Mountain Club as caretakers at the age of sixteen, a position normally held by college students or older. They talk about being friends at a young age and how they got the job as caretakers for the Club. They speak of what their duties were, hiking the trails, and some of the fun experiences they had. They mention the worst jobs they had to do, the scariest experiences they had, what they did for fun, what they ate and whether working for the RMC influenced their careers. Bill also mention the riot of 1979 in which a bunch of students were at the RMC drinking and how the state police, Forest Service and RMC all went up to take care of the situation. Peter and Bill still remain friends to this day and seem to have really enjoyed the time they spent at the Randolph Mountain Club.
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Mark: Well the easiest question we start with is first to have each say and spell your name. And this is for the transcriptionist.
Peter: Okay.
Mark: So she can recognize your voice and knows how to spell the name right.
Peter: Okay.
Mark: Let’s start with you Peter, if that’s okay.
Peter: Peter, P E T E R. Bowers, B O W E R S.
Mark: Bill.
Bill: I’m Bill Arnold, B I L L A R N O L D.
Mark: Okay and today’s August 6, 2010 we’re in Randolph, New Hampshire; Steve Chase and Mark Madison doing an oral history.
Peter or Bill: And all things.
Mark: And (unclear) for the Randolph Mountain Club and the other easy, quick question is, both of you, where and when were you born?
Peter: New York City, 1947.
Mark: Okay.
Bill: I was born in Medford, Massachusetts in 1946.
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Mark: Okay, and maybe a brief synopsis of where you went to school.
Peter: I grew mostly in Connecticut and then went to college in up state New York.
Steve: Okay, where in Connecticut?
Peter: We lived in Bristol, West Hartford, Old Greenwich in which point I went to prep school up in Lakeville and then kind of left and spent the rest of my career in New York.
Steve: Yeah I’m from Simsbury.
Peter: Okay, yeah.
Mark: Bill.
Bill: I was born in Medford and we moved to Cincinnati when I was three so I grew up mostly in Cincinnati, went to school in Cincinnati and Dayton and a little bit in Niagara Falls, New York and then a little bit of college at Paul Smith’s in the Adirondacks. And then ended up back here, always came here in the summers.
Mark: Okay.
Peter: Right.
Bill: Back here, that’s the connection yeah.
Mark: And what do you both do now?
Peter: I’m retired.
Mark: Okay. And what you’d do before you retire? 4
Peter: Public schools, teacher to superintendent.
Mark: Okay. Bill.
Bill: Whatever you need done.
[Laughing]
Mark: Would you care to be more specific, I know that’s (unclear).
Peter: It’s a little more (unclear).
Bill: I live here in Randolph, I caretake a bunch of the summer homes. I have a license for water pumps so I do water pumps all over the northern part of the state. Today I was mowing lawns all over the place, I was fixing the dam right behind you.
Mark: We saw, this morning yeah.
Bill: So you know I just sort of fix things all over town.
Mark: Okay. How did you guys come to work with the RMC?
Peter: Well I was trying to figure out, I think you, you’d always come up here, I was probably seven or eight so it was probably 1950 when I first started coming up. I think.
Bill: Not if you were seven or eight.
Peter: Well that’s true, (unclear) so it ’54, ’55. A mind is a terrible thing to lose. And we just sort of became friends and just carried that relationship on for a long time, you 5
know, and played around on the trails; it was different back then, you know, I watch my grandchildren (unclear)…
Bill: Yeah.
Peter: …we get free rein of the place. We would live, lived on the hill, my parents rented and just take off for the day and jump right in.
Bill: Walk anywhere you wanted yeah. I, I’d been coming since the summer before I was born and, and Peter’s right, back, back then, I think is still true to a certain amount but not as much, that certainly before we sixteen and could drive that if we wanted to get anywhere we’d just walk and there’s, as everybody knows, there’s quite a network of trials through the town and you know from valley to the hill and back again and visiting friends and you were always sort of hiking, you really didn’t know you were but if you weren’t consciously going out for a hike you were at least hiking down the trails to visit somebody. And…
Peter: Up and down Grassy Lane.
Bill: Oh yeah, oh yeah all over the place. (Peter saying something at same time.) We were just going all the time.
Peter: Yeah.
Bill: And yeah and really our parents sort of didn’t know it (talking at same time) they had know idea I’m not sure, I don’t know, maybe they cared or maybe they didn’t, I don’t know. Well we got to be, I don’t know fourteen, fifteen then we were allowed to go up to Crag Camp. Maybe not alone but with a group, with two or three of us…
Peter: Yeah.
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Bill: …no adults and then, that was a big leap right there.
Peter: To me it’s pretty amazing you think of thirteen, fourteen years old being, you know, pack your lunch, your meals, and just drop you off at the trail and…
Bill: Be back sometime.
Peter: Be back sometime.
Bill: A couple days or whatever.
Peter: Yeah, yeah. You know just have all of this all just to yourself. I know my son wouldn’t let my grandchildren let loose like that.
Mark: Times are different.
Bill: Yeah, yeah. And it was always made very clear, at least the RMC tried to make it very clear that the caretaker of the camps was a caretaker and not a babysitter and that they were responsible for the buildings not for the kids and that pretty much held true, you know. But…
Peter: I was just thinking we didn’t, I mean forget cell phones there weren’t even radios.
Bill: No, no, no we tried various kinds of CB radios and things but they didn’t really work very well and the communication was that when you got up there, just to make; so your parents would know that you were there at nine o’clock right? Nine o’clock at night you’d take all your flashlights everybody and go out the porch and flash the valley with your lights and they’d be down, they’d go down to Kenyon’s field or someplace with the car and flash the headlights and then everybody knew everybody was okay.
Peter: At least at that point. 7
Bill: At least until nine o’clock. (Unclear) cloudy night then I guess they just sort of assumed that we were okay.
Peter: I forgot about the flashing of the cars.
Bill: And you’d always lose track of the time and, you know, go running out there.
Peter: And you’d start seeing these lights in the valley flashing and oh…
Bill: Yeah, and you never knew quite which one was the right one but.
Peter: Somebody’s parent was curious.
Bill: Yeah, yeah. And sometimes we’d go out with a Coleman lantern and (unclear).
Peter: I guess they were desperate when they hired us.
[Talking at same time]
Mark: I don’t have to ask the questions you guys just running right through them, that’s good.
Bill: Well I, the way…
Steve: I’ll be back.
Bill: My understanding was that the summer in 1962 Ash Campbell was the caretaker.
Peter: Yeah.
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Bill: And we had spent a lot of time up there just, you know, hanging out but we helped cut firewood and clean and you know I think we generally kind of…
Peter: Yeah.
Bill: …helped out. And he was originally going to be coming back for the summer of 1963 and I guess it more or less the last minute, I don’t know April or May or something, he changed his mind and so the RMC was stuck looking for caretaker. And I guess, I think Ash sort of was a way to bale out, you know, they said “Well who would you suggest?” And he said “How about Peter and Bill.” And we were both just sixteen years old, so we were young, we were young.
Peter: This was usually a college position.
Bill: Yeah.
Mark: Everybody else we’ve interviewed was (unclear).
Bill: And—so, and there’d always been just one caretaker up there. And so I guess what they decided to do was figured well two 16 years old are, maybe they’re as good as a 32 year old I don’t know but, but they decided to hire both of us. And I think the shutterbug around town was there’s some (unclear) about the whole thing. And we, I don’t think we were perfect by any means but we did okay.
Peter: But you know cuz at that time you were in charge of four camps, although they didn’t, there was no money involved other than volunteering contributions, they had kitty.
Bill: Yeah.
Peter: We sort of had to check Gray Knob everyday as I remember running over there. 9
Bill: Yeah, yeah checked Gray Knob and The Perch, not quite (unclear, some speaking at same time).
Peter: The Log Cabin was sort of a disaster.
Bill: Yeah, yeah. And I can remember we got paid twenty dollars a week.
Peter: Well they took the salary and split it in half.
Bill: Right, they split the job (unclear, speaking at same time.)
Peter: I think it was 35, they raised it to 40 and gave us each…
Bill: Did they?
Peter: … gave us each 20, something like that.
Bill: But I, you know, I didn’t care about that.
Peter: Oh know.
Bill: I mean back then, and this is another thing that’s changed, back then when you were a caretaker at Crag Camp you were at the top of the ladder. That was just about as good as life could ever be for anybody I mean all of our friends, you know, I don’t know that it’s pretty hard to put into words just how important that…
Peter: It was really responsible.
Bill: It was very responsible cuz, yeah it was, it was a really big deal to be the caretaker, especially at 16. 10
Peter: Yeah
Mark: You set a new precedent.
Bill: Yeah so and then the summer after that I guess they hired Chris Campbell and John Free and that’s when they first did two. They had two caretakers and one at Crag and Gray Knob.
Peter: Right, right. I guess from then on it was two. And then I think probably the big deal was when they actually started charging and you had that whole financial (unclear)…
Bill: Yeah.
Peter: … that, we would always try to hit people up for money but…
Bill: They had a kitty, they had a metal box bolted to the wall and a sign and I could probably almost tell you where that sign is that said “Please fed the kitty.” And part of our job was to sort of politely suggest that people donate money and I can’t remember, there was sort of amount that they were expected to donate, a dollar, two dollars something like that.
Mark: Did most of them donate?
Bill: Oh yeah, I think most of them did.
Peter: The biggest problem was the summer camps, who rather than spend money at the AMC huts would drag twelve kids up there and not want, or more, and not want to contribute to (unclear). I think, did they put some limits on it…
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Bill: Oh yeah, yeah well no, not that summer but I, later on as I became Camps director I put in a limit of ten and that’s still for the most part it works but we still, we had a group up there last week that had twelve for camp week and you know and we had a group (unclear) of ten for a while and then they, and then they learned well we’re just send ten people to Crag and ten people to Gray Knob.
Peter: Right.
Bill: And, but then they’d just be taking over two camps and they all just sort of end up in the same place anyway.
Peter: But at least they pay now.
Bill: Oh yeah they pay.
Mark: So did they, they do anything special because you guys were so young as caretakers, did they check up on you more or?
Peter: I think (unclear) Peggy Grant was up a lot more than she (unclear), wasn’t she (unclear).
Bill: Well no, you’re probably right. I think (name) was the president.
Peter: Right.
Bill: And back then president did the hiring.
Peter: Right.
Bill: And Peggy Grant was (unclear).
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Peter: I think somebody came up once a week just to make, and it was kind of like I remember this inspection thing.
Bill: Oh yeah.
Peter: Make sure it was swept up and clean and neat.
Bill: At least once a week. They just call and have lunch and (unclear). And the Gray Knob was quite a, quite a mess I remember then too it was really more than we could handle, we tried and (unclear) they, the I think in the records they say repairs were done in ’64 but they really started doing work in ’63 when we were there.
Peter: I mean it was just (unclear) pine sticks with moss (unclear) that’s what the cabin (unclear)…
Bill: Some moss, some moss.
Peter: You could actually see right through.
Bill: Oh yeah a lot of critters running and the roof was all leaky and you know so on and so forth. So.
Peter: Strange that it turned into a winterized, year round camp.
Bill: Well yeah and I can remember the discussion back then was they were thinking about insulating one of the cabins and they decided that Gray Knob was more protected and so they did that. And then years later in ’76 we started with winter caretakers and, and…
Peter: Right.
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Bill: …and well has gradually tightened up quite a bit.
[Someone saying “Hello” and Bill responds “Hi”]
Bill: And then we went on from there.
Mark: Did you guys have a favorite path or hike around the camp?
Peter: You know I went up today, I went up to Saunders Bridge and came across the Cliffway and went out to a bog ledge and then came down the Amphibrach.
Bill: Yeah.
Peter: And I was trying to think how many miles or hours I must have spent in my lifetime on the Amphibrach cuz that’s the way you went up, the Amphibrach to the Spur Trail.
Bill: That was before the highway was put in.
Peter: Yeah, yeah.
[Speaking at same time]
Peter: Cuz the mules were there.
Bill: Yes the AMC had mules there.
Peter: The donkey (unclear).
Bill: Pass the mules. I can remember you collecting the apples from the apple trees and making apple pies (unclear) wood stove at Crag. 14
Peter: Well that was the other thing, people didn’t really have camp stoves or gas stoves.
Bill: No.
Peter: Pretty much all the cooking (unclear) monster woodstove.
Bill: We ate a lot of cold food.
Peter: But it was nice on a rainy, dreary day (unclear) that thing up.
Bill: You spent half the day just get it going cuz the wood was always wet. But that’s all right.
Peter: But it was worth it and you know we’d bake an apple pie or something like that, it was kind of nice. And remember the worst was the outhouse duty. I read…
[Speaking at same time]
Bill: And you know they’re still going through that.
Peter: ...somewhere yeah (chucking) internal (unclear).
Bill: Now they call it compositing.
Peter: Somewhere, I don’t know if it was some magazine that done an article about the White Mountains and they stated that the Crag outhouse had the most spectacular view in the mountains and it did.
Bill: It really did, oh it really did, it really did. 15
Peter: It was gorgeous.
Bill: It’s hanging right off King Ravine and it had a window in it and you looked right out over King Ravine and it was, it was beautiful.
Peter: But not being in the green time, trash was the can pit, you just…
Bill: Oh yeah.
Peter: …went 50 feet from the cabin and just threw it over the edge of the, you know…
Bill: And why would ever do anything else.
Peter: Why would you.
Bill: That’s just, you know.
Peter: And the material from the outhouse collected underneath it and one of the caretaker jobs was it had to be…
Bill: Sort of…
Peter: …shoveled over to the side, that was pretty nasty job. You put a shovel on the end of a long pole and one person’s dumping lime…
Bill: Yeah you used chlorinated lime back then.
[Speaking at same time]
Peter: The old days. 16
Mark: Well that ties into a series of questions we have here. What was the worst part of your job? (Chuckling) You may have described it already.
Bill: Well that’s it, that was probably it.
[Talking at same time]
Bill: I worked two other summers up there (unclear) ’67, no ’68 and ’69 I worked up there but even then we were still doing toilets so I would say, yeah shoveling out the toilets and packing, you know, they don’t pack loads the way they do. They don’t pack loads now the way the use to and I, I mean, that was certainly the packing was certainly the hardest work but oh that was just mind over matter…
Peter: Well we were responsible for filling the wood shed.
Bill: Yeah.
Peter: And that was all hand tools, we had a big two-man bucksaw and those crazy little bow saws with the wooden (unclear).
Bill: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Peter: (Unclear).
Bill: Cut it and split it. Yeah because there was a woodshed that was expected to provide wood for the winter for people using it in the winter and there were, I don’t think by Christmas it was pretty well used up.
Peter: It’s mostly hunters from my understanding.
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Bill: Well that’s what they use to say, I don’t know why anybody would even hunt up there.
Mark: And that was your job to fill it up.
Bill: Well yeah it’s part of the summer job was to fill that.
Mark: That must have taken a big chunk of the summer.
Bill: Well you pick away a little bit here and a little bit there and you get, you get people like we were when we were younger up there 14, 15 years old well, you know, you put them to work you know hanging around not doing anything all day, split some firewood.
Peter: Right.
Bill: So yeah you could get other people to help out but ultimately it was the caretaker’s job.
Mark: What was the best part of your job, as caretaker?
Bill: Well I don’t know.
Peter: I still in my mind sometimes will flash on a beautiful day, like this morning, everybody’s left, it’s 9 o’clock the sink was right there with glass windows overlooking the ravine and it was just a wonderful place just to be you know, I mean you’re there in the mountains you’re there by yourself, kind of cleaning up the camp and trying to figure out what you’re going to do with you day, you have…
Bill: Split firewood.
Peter: Yeah split firewood, go for a hike. 18
Bill: Yeah, yeah, yeah. As long you kept places clean and neat and people happy and sort of kept picking away at the whatever jobs you had to do for the summer, then if you wanted to take a day or half a day and go for a hike that was fine and that’s still true.
Peter: Oh yeah, yeah.
Bill: Cuz part of the job was knowing the area, knowing the trails.
Mark: Right.
Bill: I can remember a nasty job of creosoting the porch.
Peter: Oh the creosote, jeesh.
Bill: As I recall, I think Karl, I think Freedman Odom came up for a day and a bunch of volunteers and they rebuilt the porch but it was left for us to creosote it after; back then all your wood treatment was creosote, you wouldn’t dream of using now. But somehow I think we flipped a coin and you ended up getting the top, which is just go on and brush it on…
Peter: Drip on.
Bill: ..I was the one underneath and you know like this and getting drip and of course that stuff would burn and we didn’t know, you know, we didn’t know. You go in and wash off…
Peter: Clean off with gasoline.
[Laughing]
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Bill: So I can always remember doing that.
Peter: Yeah.
Bill: And always wondering about that coin toss.
Peter: Well, I still have that coin. Did Freedman come up when we were working there and spend a couple nights and terrorize some campers, where do I remember that story from?
Bill: Yeah cuz they were doing work at Gray Knob.
Peter: Oh okay.
Bill: But they were staying with us at, at Crag.
Peter: Right.
Bill: Oh yeah it was Freedman and Ernest, Ernest Simpson.
Peter: Yeah.
Bill: Freedman did a lot of the work on the camps back in the ‘60’s, repairs and things, and he was quite a carpenter, lived just up the road here. And oh yeah when it was bedtime, it was bedtime. He demanded that he had fresh meat, beef every night, you know, so somebody would have to come up every other day. And beer, he’d have one beer every night, you know, and he’d always play casino; some of this might be getting onto to when I was up there later on. But he’d always play casino and he’d always loose and so ever, who ever was partner would just loose too so we’d take turns. But yeah Freedmen was there and he’d get up like at 5 o’clock.
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Peter: Right.
Bill: And walk around with a frying pan and of course when he was up it was time for everybody to be up so that was that.
Peter: Time for breakfast.
Bill: Time for breakfast, bacon and eggs.
Peter: Right.
Bill: Yeah.
[Mark laughing]
Mark: So he terrorized the campers cuz they didn’t go to bed?
Bill: Well, they (speaking at same time) …
Peter: You know, little kids they’d be (making noises), “Shut up in there!” You know and that was it.
Bill: And that was it, oh yeah, yeah. I mean he carried a lot more weight then a couple of 16 years old.
Peter: Nobody paid attention to us.
Bill: No, no.
Mark: What were the, the guests like when you guys were up there as caretakers?
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Bill: Well it’s quite a wide range. For the most part I think…
Peter: I don
Agenda for change: strategic choices for the next government
The next government has a primary requirement to be well briefed on the challenges inherent in Australia’s strategic circumstances and the policy options available to it. ASPI is publishing this report to layout our strategic choices and to provide recommendations.
Contributors are Peter Jennings on strategic policy, Mark Thomson and Andrew Davies on defence, Anthony Bergin and Kristy Bryden on homeland security, Russell Trood on foreign policy and Ryan Stokes on economic security.
This body of ideas makes a compelling contribution to the discussions which ought always to characterise the Australian strategic and defence debate
Author Peter FitzSimons speaking at the National Library of Australia, Canberra, 13 November 2012 /
Title from acquisitions documentation.; Part of the collection: Portraits of author Peter FitzSimons speaking at the National Library of Australia, Canberra, 13 November 2012.; Acquired in digital format; access copy available online.; Mode of access: Online.; Photographed by a staff member of the National Library of Australia
Mark Hammond and King penguins, Macquarie Island, Tasmania, 1984 [transparency] /
Title from acquisitions documentation, see file NLA06/1618.; Part of the Peter Dombrovskis archive of photographs.; Dombrovskis number: 2496.; Also available online at: http://nla.gov.au/nla.pic-vn5786455
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