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    Clark Kerr oral history interview, California State Unversity Archives Oral History Project on the Origins of the California State University System, Phase II, 1995

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    Oral history interview with a primary focus on the origins of the California State University System and the 1960 master plan for California higher education.Transcripts and cassette tapes of oral history interviews with various individuals involved in the formation of the California State University system.CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY ARCHIVES Oral History Project on the Origins of the CSU System, Phase II CLARK KERR GROWTH OF THE CSU SYSTEM Interview Conducted by Judson Grenier February 22, 1995 Processed in cooperation with CSU Fullerton Oral History Program 1995 COPYRIGHT This is a transcription of an interview conducted for the California State University Archives under a grant from the Office of the Chancellor, CSU. Scholars are welcome to utilize short excerpts from any of the transcriptions without obtaining permission as long as proper credit is given to the interviewee, interviewer, and the institution sponsoring the project. All uses of this manuscript are covered by a legal agreement between the CSU Archives and the interviewee. Therefore, scholars must obtain permission from California State University Archives before making more extensive use of the transcription and related materials. None of these materials may be duplicated or reproduced by any party except the California State University Archives. However, because it is the goal of this project to preserve and make accessible significant documentation relevant to the history of the State Colleges, copies of any unrestricted transcriptions may be obtained at cost by writing to the CSU Systemwide Archivist at California State University, Dominguez Hills, Carson, California 90747. Copyright © 1995 by the Board of Trustees of The California State University PREFACE The purpose of Phase II of the California State University Oral History Project is to record and make available to researchers using the California State University Archives the reminiscences of individuals who participated in development of the CSU system. Creation of the California State Colleges in 1961 united fifteen formerly independent colleges into a single identifiable system, with its own Board of Trustees and a Chancellor to serve as chief executive officer. Using a formula that stressed systemwide planning in the allocation of resources and programs, the California State Colleges sought to offer Californians quality higher education at reasonable cost. Key to the success of the State Colleges was the decision to implement a Master Plan adopted in 1960 that divided higher education into three distinctly separate segments. The State Colleges were mandated to emphasize undergraduate and master's level programs, while the University of California campuses were to emphasize graduate education, and the Community Colleges vocational training and college preparation. The present California State University, starting from a base of fifteen campuses and 95,000 students in 1961, has grown to where it provides a wide variety of innovative programs to more than 320,000 students on 22 campuses. It is the largest system of higher education in the United States and is known as one of the strongest institutions of higher education in the country. In September 1979, the Board of Trustees created the California State University Historical Archives, to be housed on the Dominguez Hills campus. Since its establishment, the Archives, as a systemwide project, has been supported by the Chancellor's Office through the funding of a professional archivist. The Archives currently houses a collection of materials from a variety of sources. These include the Chancellor's Office, the CSU Academic Senate, and private individuals such as former Chancellor Glenn Dumke and former Trustee Paul Spencer. Consequently, the Archives holds some personal papers as well as official systemwide documents. As part of its collection policy, the Archives also has a responsibility to gather individual recollections and oral histories of the system. Phase I of the CSU Oral History Project, conducted from 1986 to 1989, and funded by the Chancellor's Office, covered the formation and early years of CSU through 32 interviews with participants within and without the system. These interviews, housed at the CSU Archives, have proven useful to research in into higher education in the 1950s and '60s. A major quality is their standardized format, developed at the Oral History Program at CSU Fullerton. Phase II is an ongoing oral history project that is decentralized but administered by the CSU Archives. Its intent is to assure that the reminiscences of retiring chancellors, principal staff members, Academic Senate chairs, Student Association presidents, trustees, and local campus presidents be recorded as closely as possible to their retirement date and that this be done routinely as a regularized process. Phase II also seeks information on the growth of the CSU during two mid-decades, 1964-85. The project has three long-range purposes. First, it will help to increase interest in the history and accomplishments of the California State University. Next, it will be a tool in aiding the acquisition of additional materials concerning the System now in private hands. Finally, it will create needed documentation for understanding the System’s historical role in state and national education; many issues it has confronted have become matters of national concern, such as meeting the needs of a multicultural student body and finding adequate resources in a time of scarcity. Oral history can provide background information on these developments that is not available in bulletins, brochures, and minutes. Funding for the project is provided by the Office of the Chancellor, Dr. Barry Munitz. We thank the interviewee for generously giving of his time. We also acknowledge the pioneering work of the CSU Fullerton Oral History Program in providing a model. Transcribing was performed by Garnette Long, who in the process contributed many wise editorial suggestions. Lawrence B. de Graaf Tim Gregory Judson A. Grenier Acting CSU Archivist Project Co-directors MEMBERS, CSU ARCHIVES ADVISORY COMMITTEE Judson A. Grenier Donald R. Gerth Harold Goldwhite Tim Gregory Betty J. Blackman William D. Campbell Lawrence B. de Graaf Robert C. Detweiler David E. Leveille Gloria Lothrop Barry Munitz Lyn Olsson John Pfau Teena Stern Helene Whitson Samuel Wiley IV Dr. Clark Kerr, at the time he became President of the Umversi CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY ARCHIVES ORAL HISTORY PROJECT ON THE ORIGINS OF THE CSU SYSTEM This interview of Dr. Clark Kerr, President Emeritus of the University of California, took place at the University's Institute of Industrial Relations in Berkeley on the afternoon of February 22, 1995. The interviewer is Judson Grenier. Although part of Phase II of the CSU Oral History Project, its principal focus is the 1960 Master Plan for Higher Education. JG: Let us start out with some biographical information. You were born in a small town west of Philadelphia? CK: Actually, I was born in a hospital in the county seat of Berks County, Pennsylvania, which is about fifty miles west of Philadelphia, a little north. We lived in a little village called Stony Creek— "crick," we called it— we had a hillside farm. My father was a combination teacher and farmer. On the hillside farm we raised chickens, fruit, vegetables, and things like that. He'd take them into town when he went in to school to teach, with a black bag over his shoulder, and sell them in one of those old-fashioned stores. He'd get credit, and on the way home he'd buy salt and sugar and things we needed. When I was about ten we moved to a regular farm, a 140-acre farm, in what was called the Oley Valley, which was east of Reading. That's where I really consider my boyhood home to be. I was raised as a farm boy, really, in both situations, but particularly there. I had my own team of horses when I was fourteen years old. JG: That's a responsibility. CK: We still worked with horses. A neighbor had a tractor, but the farming in that valley was done by horses. JG: You had three sisters . . . CK: I had three sisters, yes. They all went to Oberlin, and I went to Swarthmore, the reason being this: My mother had very little education— I think only to the sixth grade. But she became a rather well-known milliner, making the old-fashioned hats— with broad brims and flowers on them— to order. She was in the business of going from store to store, and they'd put her in the front window, and some lady would say, I want this or that, and she'd sit there making these things KERR 2 while a small crowd gathered outside. So she made a fair amount of money. Somehow— I never knew how, I wished I'd asked her— she got the idea that all her children should get an education. So she refused to marry my father— she put him off for five years— until she saved enough money for schooling, which then resulted in my going to Swarthmore and my three sisters to Oberlin. JG: That's really something. Were you older than your sisters? CK: Two were older and one was younger. JG: And you were a Quaker family? CK: No, we were not. We were in an area of eastern Pennsylvania where there were lots of religions. About a mile from our farm there was a Quaker meeting, so I knew Quakers from the very beginning. But on the corner of our farm, which had once been part of the farm, there was a combination church— one Sunday Lutheran, one Sunday Reformed. My father was Reformed— we called it Dutch Reformed, actually it was "Deutsch" Reformed, for German Reformed— and then the church was Lutheran the other week. I went both weeks. My mother was agnostic. But then I went to Swarthmore, which was a Quaker school. By that time I was kind of fed up. The Reform minister one week would talk about how the only way to get tp heaven was through the Reformed church, and the Lutheran minister would say the only way to heaven was the Lutheran church. And the language was different— do you "trespass" or, what was the other word? JG: Be a "debtor"? CK: It seemed to me there was a lot of quibbling going on. So when I got to Swarthmore, after a couple of years I became a member of the Swarthmore Friends Meeting. Incidentally, I spent three summers as a "peace caravaner" for the American Friends Service Committee. We were talking about joining the League of Nations and the World Court, we were talking against the Smoot-Hawley isolationist tariff and against rearmament at that time. So anyway, I became a member of the Society of Friends at Swarthmore. Also, as a participant of the American Friends Service committee I went once a week into north Philadelphia to a black school and prepared breakfast for starving kids, and I really mean starving. In those days there was a lot of extra food around in somewhat damaged shape, and the Quakers would collect it. KERR 3 They would collect apple butter— the top of the apple butter crock tends to get dry after awhile and unsalable— we would use apple butter and bread and week-old milk and things like that. JG: That was in the depths of the Depression, too, wasn’t it? CK: Yes, I was in the class of '32. Then a man by the name of Ruff, who was a trainer for the teams at Swarthmore— I was involved in three sports— was a lay preacher, and he took me around from one black church to another on Sundays talking about the same things I did with the Friends Service Committee, about peace and international goodwill. JG: Now, after you got your degree from Swarthmore, you came out west to go to Stanford? CK: Well, I didn't come out to go to Stanford. I came out to be a peace caravaner in California. I think that I was in the first activity of the American Friends Service Committee on the West Coast. I was going to go to Columbia for law school, where I’d been admitted, but I rather liked California. I hadn’t seen San Francisco— I'd been in southern California— so I came up, I wanted to see Stanford. I happened to get there on registration day. So I thought, gee, maybe I’ll go to Stanford for a year and then I'll go to Columbia. I had no application, nothing. I had my Swarthmore transcripts which had been sent to me during the summer. I got in the registration line, and I got to the head of it, and I said I'd like to register. "Well, where are your papers?" "I don't have any, but I have my Swarthmore transcript." The lady at the head of the line said, "Over under that oak tree, sitting, is the registrar, whose name is Mitchell— you go over and talk to him." So I went over and said I'd like to register at Stanford and gave him my Swarthmore transcript. He looked at it and said, "You're admitted." (laughter) So much for bureaucracy. JG: What field did you study at Stanford? CK: Economics. JG: And then you went on and spent two sessions over at the London School of Economics? CK: Well, I first went to Berkeley, briefly, because there was a professor at Berkeley by the name of Paul Taylor, who married Dorothea Lange, a photographer. KERR 4 JG: I remember they collaborated. CK: Taylor was interested in the Self-Help Cooperatives of the Unemployed, groups of the unemployed— some were tailors, some were barbers, some collected vegetables in the field and they'd trade around. He was interested in that, and nobody was at Stanford, so I went over there. But I barely got there when the cotton pickers strike of 1933— the biggest agricultural strike in American history— broke out. He was interested in that, and we later wrote a history of it. President Roosevelt and Governor Jimmy Rolph appointed a Commission to try to settle the strike, and Ira B. Cross, who was also in economics at Berkeley, asked me to go along as their field agent. So while they were holding their hearings in Visalia, I was out in the field talking to people. The growers were offering 50 cents a pound for picking cotton, and the strikers were asking 100, and I told the commission privately that if they came up with 75 cents it would be acceptable. Which it was, incidentally, to the Okies and Arkies, who were there under the leadership of their lay preachers who came out with them various Pentecostal sects. The Communists, who were leading the Mexicans, turned it down, but they were in the minority at that time it was mostly Okies and Arkies. So the strike was over. There was a document, which I don't think Paul and I ever used because we couldn't authenticate it, purportedly a directive from the Communist Party saying: "Don't settle this strike. The workers in America have to learn that you can't get anything from capitalism. Prolong this strike as long as you can." But it died out once the Okies and Arkies went to work. JG: That's how you got involved with the University of California at Berkeley program. CK: Actually, I did register for some classes, but I was gone all the time in the San Joaquin Valley. So then I worked for the state Relief Administration for a little while. Then I went to Europe on an American Friends Service Committee fellowship, and my wife and I studied in Geneva and London at the London School of Economics. Then I taught for a year at Antioch. I really only was a graduate student here for two years, 1937-38 and 1938-39, and during those two years I took all my examinations. JG: So you got your Ph.D. in economics in 1939. And then, after teaching at Stanford for a year, you went up to the University of Washington and were there for five years? KERR 5 CK: That's right, but mostly on a part-time basis because I was working for the Office of Price Administration and the War Labor Board. JG: I was intending to ask you how you could teach at the University of Washington and be down here in San Francisco working for the War Labor Board. CK: Well, I was on leave most of the time. With the War Labor Board, at a very early age, I was in charge of Wage Stabilization originally for the eleven western states and Hawaii. Then I became vice chairman when they started a War Labor Board in the Northwest— for Oregon, Washington, and Alaska. That's how I got really very deeply into labor relations, because we were settling all the strikes and keeping the labor peace. JG: You have an amazing career in arbitration, truly amazing. CK: I've done a lot, yes. JG: What brought you back to Berkeley after the war? CK: Well, when the war was over, they were starting an Institute of Industrial Relations here at Berkeley which was under the auspices of Governor [Earl] Warren. I think he got the idea from Governor [Thomas E.] Dewey in New York, who had started such an institute. Before that time, in the late thirties, there had been lots and lots of strikes and bitter battles, and they anticipated many industrial relations problems and thought there had ought to be some unit in the University looking at it. I think Warren also realized that the University dealt with everybody in California except the trade unions. And he advanced politically with trade union support. So anyway, this Institute of Industrial Relations was being set up, and after canvassing a lot of people, I got invited back to be the first director. JG: You were the first director. So you helped build it from the ground up? CK: Right. I was the first employee. JG: You must have a great paternal feeling about the Institute and its success. CK: Well, it's been fifty years. KERR 6 JG: Then you became Chancellor of the University so early on— 1952. CK: Yes, it was early, and it was all by accident. There was the oath controversy— the major conflict between a faculty and its board during the Joe McCarthy period, anywhere in the United States. There was nothing equivalent to it. I got involved as a young faculty member. Along the way there was an alumni committee under Steve Bechtel of the Bechtel Corporation which came up with an alternative: if you didn't want to sign the oath, you could go before the Committee on Privilege and Tenure and state your reasons for not signing and satisfy the committee that it was a matter of conscience and not a matter of membership in the Communist Party. Actually, a Communist would have signed immediately; they weren't about to catch a Communist that way. Then I was on the Committee on Privilege and Tenure as its junior member. So at a very early age, I got involved. And, it's a long story, but the next year around, there was some faculty disenchantment with the Committee on Privilege and Tenure, and they appointed a new committee, of which they made me chairman and the only continuing member. Anyway, in the course of being on the Committee on Privilege and Tenure, and then being made chairman at a very early age of their reconstituted committee, I came to the attention of the faculty. I had never been a dean, I had never been a department chairman, I had never been head of an important Senate committee, except Privilege and Tenure. Yet the faculty was asked for nominations, and I was nominated to be the first Chancellor at Berkeley. And President Sproul passed the nomination on to the Regents, and for some reason I never understood, they accepted it. I think the reason they accepted it was that they kind of wanted to make up with the faculty and accept the faculty recommendation. Also they knew that Sproul was going to run the Berkeley campus; it didn't make any difference whom they put in. [Provost] Monroe Deutsch, you may remember, had been seventeen years without any responsibilities, and they may have thought I'd be another Monroe Deutsch. As it happened, fortunately or unfortunately, I was not another Monroe Deutsch. JG: I read somewhere that Mr. Sproul was asked why he didn't take the title "Chancellor" and let the local campus executive be "President," and he said something like, "I'll never give up the title of President of the University of California." CK: He was very strong on that. KERR 7 JG: So you became Chancellor, and this was a very heady time in American education, the mid-1950s. There were still some World War II veterans on campus. CK: There were some. We were getting ready for the population tidal wave. JG: The tidal wave was being anticipated. The McCarthyist thing was coming to an end. CK: Yes, but it came to an end slowly in California. JG: Because of Senator Hugh Burns’s committee? CK: Because we had to deal with Burns’s Un-American Activities Committee. JG: He kept hounding the University, didn't he? CK: Right. Berkeley was expected to go down after the oath controversy. We were blacklisted by the AAUP and the American Psychological Association and others. But we made up our minds to go up. So there was heavy recruiting in those days, particularly because right at the end of World War II a lot of people were hired not very carefully— they were called "warm bodies"— to teach the GIs. We eliminated a lot of them. But we also were getting ready for the tidal wave. I got involved as Chancellor in helping to recruit this faculty, and during the time I was Chancellor about half the Berkeley faculty got recruited to fill the new positions and those of the people who had been dropped after the GI rush. Then we set our sights higher. Berkeley and Michigan were the two best public institutions. We began setting our sights on being compared to Harvard and Yale. And when the 1964 ratings were announced, we got rated ahead of Harvard. JG: So there was a lot going on. CK: There was a lot going on. California was expanding rapidly. There was a lot of money available. And I got involved in all of that. JG: What kind of relations did you have with the state colleges when you were Chancellor, before you became President? KERR 8 CK: I had very little relations with them, although Sproul did ask me to attend some sessions of the Liaison Committee so I knew what was going on. There was one session where I

    Dr. Thomas W. Cole Jr., Interviewed by Loretta Parham, August 19, 2012

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    Video interviews with a complementing monograph providing reflections of former presidents of Historically Black Colleges and Universities discussing leadership, mission, challenges, successes, and issues of race and education. Interviewer: Loretta Parham, CEO & Library Director, Atlanta University Center Robert W. Woodruff Library. Interviewee: Dr. Thomas W.Cole Jr. President, West Virginia State College 1982-1986; President, Clark Atlanta University 1989-2002; Interim President, Interdenominational Theological Center 2009-2010

    Service design : imperatives, processes and communication

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    This research was an investigation into the nature of new service design (NSD) activity. The thesis researched literature on NSD and established limits of its applicability. Also developed was NSD process and content theory outside such limits. The research was a multiple site case study. At the level of case-sites the study used the interpretative approach called "explanation-building; " the development of narratives that explained data using concepts from the literature review. The "crosscase" analysis tested these theoretical concepts and allowed the emergence of new empirical categories, and the development of new theoretical categories and hypotheses. Imperatives and stimuli for NSD were a mix of environmental pressure and pressure to deploy resources. Demand-side pressure for variety and the propensity of the resource-base to continually enhance capability mean that service organisations are inevitably exposed to resource or market risk. The organisational response should respect the nature and extent of risk exposure; internal 'imbalances' between resource capability and market needs must be redressed in the NSD response. The applicability of "stage-gate" models of NSD is limited to those contexts where the service is analogous to a manufactured good. In addition there are six other contexts with corresponding process ideals. Unless the outcome of the NSD process is holistic, implementation problems are the result. Holistic NSDs include a strategic rationale, the proposed market offering, process implications and structural or infrastructural resource implications. The initial configuration of NSD communication devices is dependent on the nature of the NSD process. If NSD is focussed on resource / process development then the vernacular of NSD tends to be resource / process descriptions. If NSD addresses exposure to market risk, then NSD constructs tend to be marketing devices. Thus during the NSD process the NSD need not be holistic, by the end of the process it should be

    “It does not go as well as it could”: The Views of Melanesian Migrant Farm Workers of the Cultural, Economic and Social Benefits and Costs of Seasonal Work in New Zealand

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    New Zealand‟s Recognised Seasonal Employer Scheme (RSES), launched in 2007, is an example of international short-term labour migration schemes that have been developed to solve labour shortages in the destination countries, especially in the agricultural sector, and to contribute to the economic development of the labourers‟ home countries. A review of the literature identifies four main issues that have been investigated: the strengthening of the economic base of the labourers‟ home countries, how schemes contribute to adult farmer education and the transfer of technology and skills, links between migrant workers and other development strategies, and the economic and social costs of workers‟ participation in schemes. Much of this literature highlights benefits to both countries from such schemes but there are a small number of critics who question the costs of schemes to the labourers and their home countries. Little information is available on the workers‟ own views of the costs and benefits of schemes for them. This thesis focuses on the experiences of a group of labourers from Vanuatu who came to work in New Zealand under the RSES in 2009. It asks: What are the views of fly-in, fly-out (FIFO) Melanesian seasonal migrant farm workers on the cultural, economic, and social benefits and costs of working in New Zealand under the RSES? Qualitative in-depth interviews were conducted in Bislama with 12 Vanuatu RSES workers in Northland in August 2009. Thematic analysis of the interview transcripts identified four benefits recognised by the interviewees: earning monetary income for family and community back home, gaining useful knowledge and skills that could be applied back home, personal satisfaction from the work, and personal experiences of a new country and society. Four costs recognised by the interviewees were also identified: difficult working conditions, earning less money than expected, lack of freedom and choice with respect to aspects of their time in New Zealand, and the emotional difficulties of missing home and family along with implications for gender roles of being away from home. The interviewees lacked information and understanding about a number of important aspects of the RSES, and there were no effective mechanisms for them to raise and solve the problems they were encountering. This thesis offers a number of policy recommendations that not only support the effective operation of such a scheme from the host country‟s perspective but also seeks to ensure that such schemes are of genuine value to the participating workers, their families and their home countries

    Robert Wert oral history interview, Origins of The California State University, 1988

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    Oral history interview with a primary focus on the origins of the California State University System and the 1960 master plan for California higher education. Wert represented the independent or private institutions on the Master Plan Survey Team in 1959.Transcripts and cassette tapes of oral history interviews with various individuals involved in the formation of the California State University system.Origins of The California State University Robert Wert Interviewed by Judson A. Grenier An Oral History Project of the Archives California State University Archives CSU Dominguez Hills CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY ARCHIVES Oral History Pilot Project on the Origins of the CSU System ROBERT WERT CREATING THE MASTER PLAN: AN INDEPENDENT COLLEGE PERSPECTIVE Interview Conducted by Judson A. Grenier 1988 Processed by CSU Fullerton Oral History Program 1989 COPYRIGHT This is a transcription of an interview conducted for the California State University Archives under a grant from the Office of the Chancellor, CSU. Scholars are welcome to utilize short excerpts from any of the transcriptions without obtaining permission as long as proper credit is given to the interviewee, interviewer, and the institution sponsoring the project. All uses of this manuscript are covered by a legal agreement between the CSU Archives and the interviewee. Therefore, scholars must obtain permission from California State University Archives before making more extensive use of the transcription and related materials. None of these materials may be duplicated or reproduced by any party except the California State University Archives. However, because it is the goal of this project to preserve and make accessible significant documentation relevant to the history of the State Colleges, copies of any unrestricted transcriptions may be obtained at cost by writing to the CSU Systemwide Archivist at California State University, Dominguez Hills, Carson, California, 90747. Copyright © 1989 by the Board of Trustees of The California State University PREFACE The purpose of this oral history pilot project is to record and make available to researchers using the California State University Archives the reminiscences of individuals who participated in the creation of the California State Colleges from 1959 to 1965. The creation of the California State Colleges in 1961 united fifteen formerly independent colleges into a single, identifiable system, with its own Board of Trustees and a Chancellor to serve as chief executive officer. Using a formula which stressed systemwide planning in the allocation of resources and programs, The California State Colleges sought to offer Californians quality higher education at reasonable cost. The key to the success of the California State University was the decision to adapt a plan, incorporated into the Donahoe Higher Education Act of 1960, dividing higher education into three distinctly separate segments. Under the act, the California State Colleges were mandated to emphasize undergraduate and master’s level programs, while the University of California campuses were to emphasize graduate education, and the California Community Colleges were to focus on vocational training and college preparation. The California State University, starting from a base of fifteen campuses and 95,000 students in 1961, has grown to where it now provides a wide variety of innovative programs to more than 320,000 students on nineteen campuses. It is the largest system of higher education in the United States and is known as one of the strongest institutions of higher education in the country. In September 1979, the Board of Trustees created the California State University and Colleges Historical Archives, to be housed on the Dominguez Hills campus. Since its establishment, the Archives, as a systemwide project, has been jointly supported by the Chancellor’s Office and CSU Dominguez Hills, through the funding of a professional archivist. The Archives currently houses a collection of materials received from a variety of sources. These include the Chancellor’s Office, the CSU Academic Senate, and private individuals who had previous dealings with the CSU, such as former Chancellor Glenn Dumke, former Trustee Paul Spencer, and others. Consequently, the Archives holds some personal papers as well as official systemwide documents. As part of its collection policy, the Archives also has a responsibility to collect individual recollections and oral histories of the early System and pre-System years. m Short-term goals of this oral history project are to make available the recollections and reminiscences of former members of the Board of Trustees, the State College-University of California Liaison Committee, and the Master Plan Survey Team, as well as other individuals who participated in the formation of the California State Colleges from 1959 to 1965. For the long run, the project has three purposes. First, it will help to increase interest in the history and accomplishments of the California State University. Next, it will, hopefully, be a tool to aid in the acquisition of additional materials concerning the System now in private hands. Finally, it will serve as a model and learning device to develop a more comprehensive oral history program. If the pilot project is successful, as many interviews as possible will be conducted under the expanded program with the System’s retired trustees, former vice-chancellors and college presidents, current senior management, state legislators, and other important individuals who have been influential in the growth and development of the state university. Funding for the project is provided by the Office of Vice Chancellor, Administration, Dr. Herbert L. Carter. We thank the interviewee for generously giving of his time. We also acknowledge the work of the Oral History Program at CSU Fullerton for the use of its facilities in processing this interview. Transcribing was performed by Shirley de Graaf, proofreading and index by Lynn Finger, and final preparation by Shirley de Graaf. Lawrence B. de Graaf Jacquelyn K. Sundstrand Judson A. Grenier CSU Archivist Project Co-Directors MEMBERS, CSU ARCHIVES ADVISORY BOARD Betty Blackman John Brownell Mayer Chapman Robert W. Cherny Lawrence B. de Graaf Glenn S. Dumke Donald R. Gerth Judson Grenier Arthur Hall Claudia H. Hampton James Harris Louis H. Heilbron Donald B. Leiffer Gloria Lothrop Theodore Meriam Carol J. Numrich Morris Polan W. Ann Reynolds Phillip V. Sanchez John Smart Jacquelyn K. Sundstrand IV CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY ARCHIVES ORAL HISTORY PILOT PROJECT ON THE ORIQINS OF THE CSU SYSTEM This interview with Dr. Robert Wert [RW] was conducted at his hone in San Raphael on June 23, 1988. Dr. Wert represented the independent, or private institutions on the Master Plan Survey Team in 1959. And subsequently he served as first chairman of the Coordinating Council from 1960 to 1962. The interviewer is Judson Grenier [JG]. JG: We usually like to start these interviews with a little biographical material. I wonder if you could tell me where you were born and reared. RW: Yes, sure. I was born in a little place called Harrison, Idaho, which was a lumbering town. JG: Harrison? RW: Yes, in the panhandle of Idaho on Lake Coeur d'Alene. I moved to Spokane, Washington at about one year old and grew up there. I went through Catholic elementary school and Jesuit high school, two years of college there at Gonzaga University, a Jesuit institution, and transferred to Stanford, and graduated from Stanford in 1943. JG: That was right during the war. RW: Right during the war. I had been in a navy V-7 program which allowed me to graduate before going to Midshipman school. And after graduation I did go to Midshipman school and was transferred out of the line navy to the Naval Supply Corps and sent to the Harvard Business School for a year, where we combined a full academic year's work in business and the supply and disbursing work for the navy. After that I went to sea on a destroyer escort, the Ulvert M. Moore, E442, which I mention because it was commanded by Franklin Roosevelt, Jr., the son of the president of the United States. We were at sea about a year in the Pacific, and the war then ended. I returned to Spokane where I was in a family lumber business for three years. After three years, for various reasons, my wife and I decided to move back to Stanford, where I went to graduate school. I finished up an M.B.A. in 1950. I was one of the earlier Ph.D.s in higher education under Dr. W. H. Cowley, with a Ph.D. in 1952. I went to work immediately as assistant to the president at Stanford and remained in that job for three years. The Carnegie WERT 2 Corporation of New York, an educational foundation, aaked me to join them, and 1 did so in 1954. We lived in Connecticut and I worked in New York for five years, having the general supervision of the Carnegie Corporation’s Granting Program in the fields of higher education and the improvement of undergraduate education. After five years of incessant traveling, mostly in the United States visiting college and university campuses, we returned to Stanford, where I became Vice Provost and Professor of Education. That was in 1959. Shortly after returning to Stanford I was asked to become a member of the Master Plan Team for Higher Education, and that brings us up to the topic of the day. JG: Could I back up and ask a few things? Did you by any chance know Leo Cain when he was at Stanford? RW: Yes. Not well, but I knew him. JG: Did you have any opportunity while you were Vice-Provost at Stanford to look into the operations of the state Board of Education, or the state Department of Education? RW: No, not really. JG: So you had no prior experience with that operation? RW: The only prior experience I had with Sacramento was that very soon after we came back to California in 1959 Governor Brown appointed me a member of the State Scholarship Commission. And 1 served on that commission all during the Master Plan Team period. I resigned the commission at the time I was appointed president of the Coordinating Council for Higher Education because I couldn’t hold two state offices at the same time. JG: Why do you suppose Governor Brown appointed you to the State Scholarship Commission? RW: I really don’t know. The only inkling I have came from Elinor Heller, a long-time Democratic National Committeewoman from Atherton, who was a personal friend of mine. And I know that Brown had checked thoroughly with her. Now whether she or her husband, Ed Heller, then a regent of the University, had put my name in to Brown I don’t know. JG: But it might have been? RW: It might have been, yes. WERT 3 JG: When did you first get wind that . . . well, as you know, it was the legislature that asked the Liaison Committee between the Board of Regents and the Board of Education to set up this Master Plan Survey Team. Was there anything in the wind in the field of higher education to indicate that something like this was necessary? RW: Yes, there was, indeed. The competition between the state colleges and the University and the junior colleges— I use the old-fashioned terms, 1 believe they were accurate terms for the time— before the state legislature and the governor’s office, and in general throughout the state, was becoming nearly out of control. Every state college was up in the legislature doing its own lobbying, the University branches that existed then were doing the same. The junior colleges were going up there in small armies. It seemed very clear, even to those of us well on the outside of the state systems, that we were approaching nearly a state of anarchy, and that this unbridled, unsupervised competition was going to be deleterious to the health of the higher educational systems in the state if something were not done. So that many of us who were reasonably informed but outside the publie-supported institutions, knew. JG: Were the private institutions concerned about this rivalry, that they might be affected by it as well? RW: I don’t recall any grave concern. I think there was a kind of a, well, not concern, but a general knowledge that all was not well. The private institutions in those days, I think, did not pay significant attention to the public institutions. JG: They weren’t surprised when a favored legislator could get a state college established in a place like Turlock? RW: Well, they may have been, but I didn’t hear much about it if they were. JG: Did you know Arthur Coons before? RW: Yes, I had known Arthur when I worked at the Carnegie Corporation. He came into our office every time he came east. I was responsible for making either one, for sure, or possibly two grants to Occidental College during the five years I was at Carnegie. So both at the college, and in New York I somewhat. did get to know Arthur. Not well, but JG: Glenn Dumke Carnegie. also was at Occidental when you were with WERT 4 RW: That * s correct. He was dean of the faculty then. And I got to know Qlenn somewhat, too. JQ: Do you think your Carnegie work helped acquaint you with many of the educational leaders? RW: No question. I did nothing but travel and go to educational meetings. As you already know, I knew Clark [Kerr], I knew Glenn Dumke. I had known Clark Kerr for quite a few years. JG: How did you meet Clark Kerr? RW: Clark, as I remember, was on the board of the Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching, which was allied to the Carnegie Corporation. As president of the University of California he was around our office quite a bit. In any event, I knew Clark quite well by the time I came to California. JG: Were you a specialist in higher education? RW: Yes, I was. You might be interested; my thesis was a history of the reorganizations of Harvard University in the nineteenth Century. The thesis was read not only in the school of education at Stanford, but also by the history department. JG: Good. So you’d been interested in the organization of higher education over three hundred years? RW: That’s right. JG: Did you know that there was a Master Plan Survey Team being set up before you were called? RW: No. I don’t believe I was aware of it. I have forgotten now who originally got in touch with me, but I had always surmised that Clark Kerr was the person probably behind it. JG: Because you didn’t know Roy Simpson at that time? RW: No. In any event, I have forgotten whether Clark or someone else called me and asked me if I would be able to serve. I checked with President [Wallace] Sterling at Stanford, and Provost Terman, and they said, "Fine, no problem." So when asked I said, "Great, I’ll serve. I’ll be glad to." JG: Who called you? WERT 5 RW: I don't really remember who called me. If anybody did, I think it was Clark, but I'm not positive. JG: Was it understood that you were to represent the point of view of the independent institutions? RW: That's correct, I was to represent the private institutions. JG: Were you also to be kind of objective? RW: No, I think that role came upon me, and I might say came upon Arthur Coons, who was chairman, because we really didn't have any access to Brown. And I always saw myself, and I know Arthur saw himself, as being objective people, listening to arguments from all sides but favoring no one in particular, being opposed to no one in particular. And inasmuch as we had nothing in particular to ask for, and in view of our own backgrounds, it seemed a very appropriate role to play at the time. And since, I might say. JG: In his book Arthur Coons said he told Kerr and Simpson that he didn't want to be a representative of the private institutions of higher education because he was going to be chairman of the committee, and he thought he might have to put forward his own Master Plan. RW: In that he was absolutely correct. I think it would have tainted his position as chairman, if he also represented someone. JG: But at that point the committee agreed unanimously that you would be the person. RW: I had forgotten that, that does recall it to me. JG: So apparently you had widespread support across all the segments. RW: I'm glad of that. I might say just incidentally, that Arthur and I did not press for anything on behalf of the California state independent colleges until the last meeting of the committee. I don't recall if either of us ever asked for anything. We asked for an expansion of the California State Scholarship Commission and a new California state graduate fellowship program at the last meeting of the Master Plan Committee. And both were approved by our colleagues. JG: Let me ask you about some of the other members of the committee? WERT 6 RW: Yes. JG: Do you have any recollections of the segmental representat ives? RW: Oh, sure. JG: The roles that they played. RW: Yes. JG: The community college representatives? RW: Henry Tyler, of course, was looked upon by me, and I assume the rest of the committee, as the representative of the California Junior Colleges, and a member of the committee just as Dumke was or McHenry was. The others, I certainly remember all of them, sure. JG: Did you consider Dean McHenry to be more or less Clark Kerr’s spokesperson? RW: I considered Dean to be a representative of the University of California, and as such, the spokesperson for the president of the University, or the Board of Regents, or whomever he was representing from day to day. JG: He told me that occasionally he had to make a phone call. RW: He did occasionally. And then, of course, Dean has been noted for many years of taking copious notes, all of which he now tells me are in the Bancroft Library. Some day I would like to go over and read them if I can decipher them. JG: And Glenn Dumke representing the state colleges. There was also a specialist in higher education, Arthur Browne. RW: Yes, I knew Arthur as well. I don’t know how the other members of the committee perceived it, but it seemed to me, I looked upon Arthur and Tom Holy from the University of California as the staff people, and certainly not as voting members of the committee. They were there at every meeting. They certainly could be influential with their bosses, so to speak, but I did not consider that they were voting members of the committee as the rest of us were. I just want to make that differentiation. It seemed to me that was the way it was. JG: Did you take votes? RW: Not really. We didn’t have to. WERT 7 JG: You reached a consensus most of the time? RW: It was pretty clear what it was going to be, yes. JG: Was Keith Sexton also a kind of staff person? RW: Yes, Keith was there at every meeting, as I recall. He was, of course, representing the legislature. And Dorothy Donahoe was a primary legislator of higher education for the legislature. Keith later on, of course, I put on as chief of the staff of the Coordinating Council, so I knew him well for years. JG: Now you decided early-on that your meetings were not to be open to the public. Do you think that was a wise decision? RW: Yes. JG: Why? RW: I don’t think we could have accomplished what we did if we had been in constant wrangling in public meetings. These matters, in my opinion at the time and now even more, just could not have been adjudicated as easily, or as well, in public meetings as they could have in the kinds of meetings we held, where there was a great amount of give and take, and no posturing. JG: To some extent, that is what James Madison said of the Constitutional Convention. RW: I understand, yes. I also understand the general view of the state of California about open meetings, and I’m certainly not opposed to that view when it comes to public bodies. But I have never quite considered this plan the public kind of work that it became later in front of the legislature or in front of the Liaison Committee, where the meetings were public. JG: Occasionally you would have visitors, such as members of the legislature or Governor Brown’s staff, or someone like that? RW: Sure. We just didn’t open it up to anybody who wanted to come and argue. We were in the position of a working committee. I think it’s a mistake even to think of the Master Plan committee as the equivalent of a legislative committee, which has to operate in public except for personnel matters. We were not that. We were a working, hard working I might add, committee due to make a report to the public agencies of the state of California, where WERT 8 all the debates and all of the open hearings and so on could be held. JG: Where did you usually meet? RW: We met all over the state. It was a different place nearly every meeting. We met at state college campuses, university campuses, motels, airport hotels, in Sacramento, everyplace. JG: What about the role of technical committees? Did they play a major role? RW: The technical committees developed a great deal of factual information. We had them, as you recall, in all sorts of areas, ranging from the economics of higher education to admissions, and so on. They developed a great deal of information and data which we used during the course of our own study, even though the technical reports were not finished, as I recall, until well along in our deliberations. But what we would do is get in touch with the chairman of the committee, for example, Arnold Joyal, then president of Fresno State, and the chairman of the economics committee. If we had an economic question we didn't know the answer to, and it seemed important, Arthur Coons or somebody would get Joyal on the phone and say, "Now have you come to this particular thing? What do you think about it?" And he would get whatever opinion was then available from Joyal on behalf of the committee. And we would incorporate that thinking. But by and large, I would say that mo

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    Leiffer was a political science professor at San Diego State, worked for then governor Edmund "Pat" Brown and became the first executive officer of the newly formed State Colleges before the hiring of the first chancellor.Transcripts and cassette tapes of oral history interviews with various individuals involved in the formation of the California State University system.Origins of The California State University Donald Leiffer Interviewed by Judson A. Grenier An Oral History Project of the Archives UUU Archives CSU, Dominguez Hills CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY ARCHIVES Oral History Pilot Project on the Origins of the CSU System DONALD LEIFFER EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE COLLEGES Interview Conducted by Judson A. Grenier 1980 and 1987 Processed by CSU, Fullerton Oral History Program March 1988 COPYRIGHT This is a transcription of an interview conducted for the California State University Archives under a grant from the Office of the Chancellor, CSU. Scholars are welcome to utilize short excerpts from any of the transcriptions without obtaining permission as long as proper credit is given to the interviewee, interviewer, and the institution sponsoring the project. All uses of this manuscript are covered by a legal agreement between the CSU Archives and the interviewee. Therefore, scholars must obtain permission from California State University Archives before making more extensive use of the transcription and related materials. None of these materials may be duplicated or reproduced by any party except the California State University Archives. However, because it is the goal of this project to preserve and make accessible significant documentation relevant to the history of the State Colleges, copies of any unrestricted transcriptions may be obtained at cost by writing to the CSU Systemwide Archivist at California State University, Dominguez Hills, Carson, California, 90747. Copyright © 1987 by the Board of Trustees of The California State University PREFACE The purpose of this oral history pilot project is to record and make available to researchers using the California State University Archives the reminiscences of individuals who participated in the creation of the California State Colleges from 1959 to 1965. The creation of the California State Colleges in 1961 united fifteen formerly independent colleges into a single, identifiable system, with its own Board of Trustees and a Chancellor to serve as chief executive officer. Using a formula which stressed systemwide planning in the allocation of resources and programs, The California State Colleges sought to offer Californians quality higher education at reasonable cost. The key to the success of the California State University was the decision to adapt a plan, incorporated into the Donahoe Higher Education Act of 1960, dividing higher education into three distinctly separate segments. Under the act, the California State Colleges were mandated to emphasize undergraduate and master’s level programs, while the University of California campuses were to emphasize graduate education, and the California Community Colleges were to focus on vocational training and college preparation. The California State University, starting from a base of fifteen campuses and 95,000 students in 1961, has grown to where it now provides a wide variety of innovative programs to more than 300,000 students on nineteen campuses. It is the largest system of higher education in the United States and is known as one of the strongest institutions of higher education in the country. In September 1979, the Board of Trustees created the California State University and Colleges Historical Archives, to be housed on the Dominguez Hills campus. Since its establishment, the Archives, as a systemwide project, has been jointly supported by the Chancellor’s Office and CSU Dominguez Hills, through the funding of a professional archivist. The Archives currently houses a collection of materials received from a variety of sources. These include the Chancellor’s Office, the CSU Academic Senate, and private individuals who had previous dealings with the CSU, such as former Chancellor Glenn Dumke, former Trustee Paul Spencer, and others. Consequently, the Archives holds some personal papers as well as official systemwide documents. As part of its collection policy, the Archives also has a responsibility to collect individual recollections and oral histories of the early System and pre-System years. iii Short-term goals of this oral history project are to make available the recollections and reminiscences of former members of the Board of Trustees, the State College—University of California Liaison Committee, and the Master Plan Survey Team, as well as other individuals who participated in the formation of the California State Colleges from 1959 to 1965. For the long run, the project has three purposes. First, it will help to increase interest in the history and accomplishments of the California State University. Next, it will, hopefully, be a tool to aid in the acquisition of additional materials concerning the System now in private hands. Finally, it will serve as a model and learning device to develop a more comprehensive oral history program. If the pilot project is successful, as many interviews as possible will be conducted under the expanded program with the System’s retired trustees, former vice-chancellors and college presidents, current senior management, state legislators, and other important individuals who have been influential in the growth and development of the state university. Funding for the project is provided by the Office of Vice Chancellor, Administration, Dr. Herbert L. Carter. We thank the interviewee for generously giving of his time. We also acknowledge the work of the Oral History Program at CSU Fullerton for the use of its facilities in processing this interview. Transcribing was performed by Shirley de Graaf, final preparation, proofreading and index by Teryne Bell. Lawrence B. de Graaf Jacquelyn K. Sundstrand Judson A. Grenier CSU Archivist Project Co-Directors MEMBERS, CSU ARCHIVES ADVISORY BOARD Betty Blackman John Brownell Mayer Chapman Robert W. Cherny Lawrence B. de Graaf Glenn S. Dumke Donald R. Gerth Judson Grenier Arthur Hall Claudia H. Hampton James Harris Louis H. Heilbron Donald B. Leiffer Gloria Lothrop Theodore Meriam Carol J. Numrich Morris Polan W. Ann Reynolds Phillip V. Sanchez John Smart Jacquelyn K. Sundstrand IV mmmm ili n B » ■ » i l l l l l l M l l i I M b M ¡i¡i¡l¡iilli -' .■-'•':">i«V:-:<':.v ^ : ' r :n < --;h : WêïÆm§0&kC;- "■* imM Hfl« llip DONALD LEIFFER ca. 1960 iliifl wSÊSÊm|||||1 IÄ # # ||Ì|P|ft§§ì;| m m h u h i &lK2 ib ib iii PÄ M||äff|i■ ■ ■ pppplll l l l l l l l ■ t tÂ É P; §j MÊÈÊ iiisiiiiiiliiili 8| || ij§§ W WÊÊÊÊÊmmmmm. fml|PmwmQ; ■ju¨ jjmKmmsBCALIFORNIASTATEUNIVERSITYARCHIVESORALHISTORYPILOTPROJECTONTHEORIGINSOFTHECSUSYSTEMThisisthefirstoftwointerviewswithMr.DonaldLeifferconductedathishomeinLaJollaonNovember24,1980.JG:Pleasetellmealittlebitaboutyourself.Areyoua.nativeofCaliforniaorhowdidyougetouthere?IunderstandyouwenttoUCLA.DL:Well,myfatherretiredin1919,andwedroveout.Thatwasquiteanexperience.Mybrother,whoisfiveyearsolderthanI,didthedriving.HewassixteenandIwaseleven.So,IwenttoschoolouthereatManualArtsHighSchool.Andaftergraduatingfromhighschool,Itookayearandahalfoffandwentaroundthecountry,camebackandstartedinatwhatwasthenSouthernBranchandmovedoutafterthreeyearstothenewcampusatWestwood.SoIwasinthefirstclasstograduatefromUCLAattheWestwoodcampus.Aspresidentofthatclass,Icanremembercrawlingallovertheemptyhillsidesonthecampuslookingforapotentialamphitheaterfromwhichwemightbeabletoholdourfirstgraduation.ErnestC.Moore,whowasthentheprovost,wouldnotapproveofanyparticularoneuntilwefinallyheldtheceremonyattheHollywoodBowl.JG:Ifyouhadinvestedinrealestateinthosehillsyouweretrampingover,youdbeamillionaire.DL:Itsincredible.ImajoredinhistoryandpoliticalscienceatUCLA.Nograduateworkwastherewhatsoever,andsotoseekgraduatedegrees,onehadtogoelsewhere.IwasofferedafellowshipatHarvardandtookaMastersDegreeinEuropeanDiplomaticHistory.ThatintriguedmesothatIwantedtoknowwhatwasgoingontoday.IshiftedfieldstoInternationalRelationstoInternationalLaw,andfromInternationalLawtoPublicLaw.ThenIwasnotsatisfiedwithknowinghowlawsweremade,Iwantedtoknowhowtheywereexecuted.SoIwentintoAdministrationandIhaveaPh.DfromHarvardinMunicipalAdministration.Allofthistookquiteabitoftime,butIservedfirstasanassistantandthenasaninstructor.IwasateacheratHarvardforeightyearsandreturnedtwiceinthecapacityofvisitingprofessor.LEIFFER2IwentacrosstherivertoBostonUniversityandbecameChairmanoftheDepartmentofGovernmentatBostonUniversityandMaxwellProfessorofUnitedStatesCitizenshipandGovernmentandfoundedthePublicAdministrationResearchInstitutethere.Whilethere,IbecamethepresidentoftheAAUPChapterandbecameactiveinfacultyaffairsandfacultyinterests.Whilepresidentofthatchapter,weworkedtoestablish,anddidsucceedingetting,asalarystandardsetup,whichhadneverbeenthecaseatBostonUniversity.Wealsofoundedauniversitysenate,andIwasthefirstfacultychairmanofthefacultysenate.Thenin1947IcameoutandtaughtatUCLASummerSchool.MyparentswerestilllivinginLosAngelesandIhadadesiretoreturntoCalifornia.TheopportunitycamewhenIwasinvitedtoSanDiegoStatetostartapublicadministrationprogramatthatinstitution,withtheideathatitwouldbeakindofguineapigprograminpublicadministrationforthestatecollegesystem.JG:Theyhadnosuchprogramsatthattime?DL:Thereweresomecourses,buttherewerenorealprogramsanywhere.WesetupaninternshipprogramhereatSanDiegowhichcarriedoninfairlynormalfashion.IwaspresidentofCSEAChapterhereandthevicepresidentofthefacultyassociationinmysecondyearhere,andthisofcoursemeantthatIbecameinterestedinvariousareasoutsidemyimmediateprofessionalareaofpublicadministration.Iwasinterestedinthebroadeningoftheacademicbaseinourstatecollegesandintroducingresearchprogramstoourinstitution.Theword"researchwasnotanacceptablewordinthestatecollegesatthistime.ItwasawordthatwasthepeculiarprerogativeoftheUniversityofCalifornia.Sowestartedaninstituteonpublicaffairsherewithouttheuseofthewordresearchinit.Ialso,throughthisfacultyassociation,metwithfacultypersonnelfromotherinstitutions.Wehadanorganizationthatmetfromtimetotime.Asaresultofthis,werecognizedthesignificanceofthegrowingdesireonthepartofthestatecollegestogointomoreandmoregraduatework,andmoreandmoreresearch,andbefreedfromthecontrolexercisedthroughthehistoricpredominanceoftheeducationdepartmentsandtheleadershipthroughouttheadministrationofEd.Ds.JG:Youwerentsupposedtodoanyresearchthatwasntconnectedtoteaching?DL:Well,eventheword"research"waswell,theideaofpublicationwasaccepted,butitwasnottheprimaryreasonforpromotion.ImightsaythatmydecisiontoLEIFFER3comeoutherewaskindofinterestinginthatweknewweweregoingtobeinvited,andmywifeandItriedtodecidewhetherweshouldacceptitornotbecauseIwas,ofcourse,atenuredpersonandwasafullprofessorandhadbeenforsomesevenyears.Aftergoingthroughalloftheyesesandthenosofwhatweshoulddo,wedecidedtomakeanarbitrarydecisiononamonetarybasisandcutitthrough.Sowesaidthatiftheoffercamethroughat|Pmwm 'Q; \ ■ j ü \ jjm Kmm s B CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY ARCHIVES ORAL HISTORY PILOT PROJECT ON THE ORIGINS OF THE CSU SYSTEM This is the first of two interviews with Mr. Donald Leiffer conducted at his home in La Jolla on November 24, 1980. JG: Please tell me a little bit about yourself. Are you a. native of California or how did you get out here? I understand you went to UCLA. DL: Well, my father retired in 1919, and we drove out. That was quite an experience. My brother, who is five years older than I, did the driving. He was sixteen and I was eleven. So, I went to school out here at Manual Arts High School. And after graduating from high school, I took a year and a half off and went around the country, came back and started in at what was then Southern Branch and moved out after three years to the new campus at Westwood. So I was in the first class to graduate from UCLA at the Westwood campus. As president of that class, I can remember crawling all over the empty hillsides on the campus looking for a potential amphitheater from which we might be able to hold our first graduation. Ernest C. Moore, who was then the provost, would not approve of any particular one until we finally held the ceremony at the Hollywood Bowl. JG: If you had invested in real estate in those hills you were tramping over, you’d be a millionaire. DL: It’s incredible. I majored in history and political science at UCLA. No graduate work was there whatsoever, and so to seek graduate degrees, one had to go elsewhere. I was offered a fellowship at Harvard and took a Masters Degree in European Diplomatic History. That intrigued me so that I wanted to know what was going on today. I shifted fields to International Relations to International Law, and from International Law to Public Law. Then I was not satisfied with knowing how laws were made, I wanted to know how they were executed. So I went into Administration and I have a Ph.D from Harvard in Municipal Administration. All of this took quite a bit of time, but I served first as an assistant and then as an instructor. I was a teacher at Harvard for eight years and returned twice in the capacity of visiting professor. LEIFFER 2 I went across the river to Boston University and became Chairman of the Department of Government at Boston University and Maxwell Professor of United States Citizenship and Government and founded the Public Administration Research Institute there. While there, I became the president of the AAUP Chapter and became active in faculty affairs and faculty interests. While president of that chapter, we worked to establish, and did succeed in getting, a salary standard set up, which had never been the case at Boston University. We also founded a university senate, and I was the first faculty chairman of the faculty senate. Then in 1947 I came out and taught at UCLA Summer School. My parents were still living in Los Angeles and I had a desire to return to California. The opportunity came when I was invited to San Diego State to start a public administration program at that institution, with the idea that it would be a kind of guinea pig program in public administration for the state college system. JG: They had no such programs at that time? DL: There were some courses, but there were no real programs anywhere. We set up an internship program here at San Diego which carried on in fairly normal fashion. I was president of CSEA Chapter here and the vice-president of the faculty association in my second year here, and this of course meant that I became interested in various areas outside my immediate professional area of public administration. I was interested in the broadening of the academic base in our state colleges and introducing research programs to our institution. The word "research” was not an acceptable word in the state colleges at this time. It was a word that was the peculiar prerogative of the University of California. So we started an institute on public affairs here without the use of the word research in it. I also, through this faculty association, met with faculty personnel from other institutions. We had an organization that met from time to time. As a result of this, we recognized the significance of the growing desire on the part of the state colleges to go into more and more graduate work, and more and more research, and be freed from the control exercised through the historic predominance of the education departments and the leadership throughout the administration of Ed.D’s. JG: You weren’t supposed to do any research that wasn’t connected to teaching? DL: Well, even the word "research" was— well, the idea of publication was accepted, but it was not the primary reason for promotion. I might say that my decision to LEIFFER 3 come out here was kind of interesting in that we knew we were going to be invited, and my wife and I tried to decide whether we should accept it or not because I was, of course, a tenured person and was a full professor and had been for some seven years. After going through all of the yeses and the nos of what we should do, we decided to make an arbitrary decision on a monetary basis and cut it through. So we said that if the offer came through at 5,500 dollars a year or better, we would accept it. If it were below that, we would reject it. The offer did come through for a full professorship at San Diego State at the salary of 4,496.JG:Thatsclose!DL:Well,yes.tocome.Itwascloseenough,andwemadethedecisionJG:Youmentionedthatthroughyourworkwiththefacultyassociationyougottoknowpeoplefromotherstatecolleges.Wasthatjustonaninformal,adhocbasis?DL:No.Itcameintwoways:throughwhatwascalledtheACSCItheAssociationofStateCollegeInstructorswhichlaterbecametheAssociationofStateCollegeProfessors,andalsothroughtheCSEA.Therewasacommitteeofstatecollegefacultycomposedofonefromeachofthestatecolleges,andwemetoccasionallyandexchangedpointsofview.This,Ithink,waspartofthefermentthatledtolaterlegislativeeffortstogetthestatecollegeprogramfreefromtheadministrativecontrolbytheDepartmentofEducation.TheStateDepartmentofEducationhadwithinitadivisionofhighereducation,andthisobviouslywasheadedbyadivisionchief.JG:Whowasheadofitwhenyoufirstcame?DL:Icantrecall,butRoySimpsonwasthesuperintendentofpublicinstruction,andthiscameunderhisadministrativejurisdiction.Icanrecallappearingbeforealegislativecommitteein1958inwhichIappearedasarepresentativeoffacultyonabillwhichsubsequentlywasrevisedandbecametheDonahoeActsupportingtheconceptoftheindependenceofthestatecollegeprogramfromtheDepartmentofEducation.JG:HowdidyougetinvitedtoparticipateintheBrownAdministration?DL:Well,onethingfollowsanother.Iwasaskedbackin1958ifIwouldprepareapositionpaperortwofor[EdmundG.]PatBrownscampaign.Idid,onmetropolitangovernment,LEIFFER4andIparticipatedinsomeofthebraintrustmeetingspriortohiselection.Afterhiselection,afewmonthsafter,IreceivedatelephonecallaskingifIwouldcomeupforatalkwiththegovernorrelativetotakingapositioninthegovernorsoffice.OfcourseIwent,andthetitlewhichwasgiventomewasresearchsecretary.Thisisaneuphemistictitleforthespeechwriter,butactuallyIdidverylittlespeechwriting.Iwasassignedthreepolicyresponsibilityroles.Onedealtwiththereorganizationofstategovernment,andIheadedupataskforcewhichmadeitsreportfinally,andwhichresultedintheorganizationwenowhavetheagencystructureinstategovernmentandthenthethirdrolewasarelationshipwithstateandlocalgovernmentsandstateandlocalgovernmentorganizations.SoIappearedforthegovernor,duringtheyearthatIwasthere,ashisrepresentativewhenhecouldnot,atmeetingsoftheBoardofRegentsandoftheBoardofEducation.Naturally,IbecameacquaintedwiththepersonnelintheDepartmentofEducationandontheBoardofEducation.JG:Couldyoutellmewhattheboardswerelikebackinthosedays?DL:Well,therewereveryfinepeopleonbothboardsofcourse,buttheBoardofEducationhadtheresponsibilityforstatepolicyforelementaryeducation,secondaryeducation,aswellasthestatecolleges,anditmeantthattherewasverylittleattentionortimeavailabletogivetothegreatproblemsofthestatecollegesystemwhichwasdevelopingandgrowing.Manyinthesystemfelttheyweresecondclasscitizenseverywheretheywent.Itwaskindofanalmostparanoicfeeling.JG:WhentheywenttotheUniversity,tothestateboardorwherevertheywent.DL:WhentheActwaspassedtheDonahoeActandthegovernorsofficesupporteditcompletely,itprovidedfortheestablishmentofanewagencyknownastheBoardofTrusteesoftheCaliforniaStateCollegesystem.JG:Whoseideawasthat?DL:Idontthinkitwasanyparticularpersonsidea.Ithinkitjustdevelopedinthecourseofagoodmanyconversations.Theideaofadivorcewasclearandhadbeenforsometime.Thethoughtofcallingthisthe’’BoardofTrusteesoftheCaliforniaStateCollegesystemwastoprovideaboardwhichwouldbeinthesamepositioninrelationtothestatecollegesastheBoardofRegentswastotheUniversityofCalifornia.TheproposaldidLEIFFER5placeuponthisboard,aspresident,thegovernor.Thepresidingofficeristhegovernor,inbothinstances.Exofficiomembershipswerequitesimilarfromstateofficialsthelieutenantgovernor,etcetera.Bylegislation,however,thetermofofficewasestablishedatfouryearsbecausetheconstitutiondoesnotpermitthecreationofalegislativebodywithtermslongerthanfouryears,sosubsequentlywehadtohaveaconstitutionalamendmentthatextendedthetermtoeightyears.JG:TellmeabouttheMasterPlan[Survey]Team.Whoweresomeofthepeoplethatwereprominent?DL:IntheMasterPlan...thatwascriticalinrelationtothedevelopmentoftheroleweretalkingaboutnow.ThechairmanofthatwasArthurCoons.JG:Howwashepicked?DL:Bythegovernor.Andinfact,thatbeforeIwasonthegovernorsstaff.RepresentingtheUniversitywasDeanMcHenry,andGlennDumkewasfromthestatecollegesystem.Theyweretheprincipalindividuals.ClarkKerrwasactivewithinit,too.ClarkwasthenthepresidentoftheUniversityofCalifornia.JG:DidtheyselectCoonsaschairmanbecausehewouldbedisinterested?DL:Yes...yes,andofcoursetherewasrepresentationfromtheDepartmentofEducationforthejuniorcollegeprogram,whichwasatremendouslyimportanthighereducationfactorinthestate.JG:Doyourememberwhothatwas?DL:Icantrecallthenameatthistime.Iattendedanumberofmeetingsasrepresentativeofthegovernor,thoughIwasnotonthecommittee.JG:Wheredidtheymeet?DL:Differentplaces,sometimesinSacramentoandsometimesinLosAngeles.IthinktheyalsometinSanFrancisco.JG:ArthurCoonssecretaryisstillactive,upatOccidental.DL:Well,shesonepersonIsuggestyoutalkto.Heperformedagreatroleinhiscapacityaschairmanofthatcommittee.TheprivateinstitutionswhichherepresentedarejustasdeeplyconcernedinthepubliceducationprogramastheyareintheirownbecausethereisanLEIFFER6interrelatednessandinsomeinstances,acompetitionforstatusandforfunds.JG:DidtheMasterPlanCommitteedependuponpositionpapersthatweredevelopedbyindividuals?DL:No,Ithinktheydidagreatdealofworkthemselves.ButthepersonIwouldtalktoaboutthatbesidesGlennDumkewouldbeDeanMcHenry.DeanMcHenryisretirednow,hehasbeenchancellorfortheUniversityofCaliforniaatSantaCruz,andIcangiveyouhisaddress.JG:Iwouldliketotalktohim.DL:Perhapswecanspendsometimetalkingaboutotherindividualswhomightbeofsomeinteresttoyouasyoudoyourwork.JG:Good.DL:Inyourlettersuggestingtopics,thereisoneitemwhichisnotmentionedwhichIwillnowmentionbecauseIthinkitisofsomeinterest.ThisoccurredwhenIhadthetitleofadministrativeofficer.Wouldyoulikeformetobackupabitonthisthing?JG:Please.Idliketoknow,wheredidthattitlecomefrom?DL:WhentheBoardofTrusteeshelditsfirstmeeting,which,IthinkwasinAugust1960,Ihadpreparedtheagendaforthatmeetingassecretarytothegovernor,andoneoftheitemsonitwasthesuggestionthatcertaincommitteesbesetupwithintheboardincludingonecommitteeonpersonnel,chargedwiththeresponsibilityofseekingachancellorandofsettingupaninterimadministrationuntilthechancellorwasselected.IhadcompletedmyyearofleavefromSanDiegoStateandwasreadytoreturntoSanDiegoState.ThiscommitteethatwassetupbytheboardcameintomyofficeimmediatelyafterthemeetinghadbeenconcludedandaskedmeifIwouldserveassecretarytotheboardandasstaffmanfortheboard.IsaidatthattimethatIappreciatedtheirinterestbutthatIcouldnotvisualizethatroleandthattitle,andthatIfeltlikethatwhoevertookitshouldhaveamoreresponsibleassignmentthanwassuggestedbythattitle.Theyaskedmeformyopiniononit,andIsaidthatIhadnoopinionabouttitlereally,butIdidaboutsalary,andIsaidifIweretobeselected,Iwouldrequestasalaryofatleast4,496. JG: That’s close! DL: Well, yes. to come. It was close enough, and we made the decision JG: You mentioned that through your work with the faculty association you got to know people from other state colleges. Was that just on an informal, ad hoc basis? DL: No. It came in two ways: through what was called the ACSCI— the Association of State College Instructors— which later became the Association of State College Professors, and also through the CSEA. There was a committee of state college faculty composed of one from each of the state colleges, and we met occasionally and exchanged points of view. This, I think, was part of the ferment that led to later legislative efforts to get the state college program free from the administrative control by the Department of Education. The State Department of Education had within it a division of higher education, and this obviously was headed by a division chief. JG: Who was head of it when you first came? DL: I can’t recall, but Roy Simpson was the superintendent of public instruction, and this came under his administrative jurisdiction. I can recall appearing before a legislative committee in 1958— in which I appeared as a representative of faculty on a bill which subsequently was revised and became the Donahoe Act— supporting the concept of the independence of the state college program from the Department of Education. JG: How did you get invited to participate in the Brown Administration? DL: Well, one thing follows another. I was asked back in 1958 if I would prepare a position paper or two for [Edmund G.] Pat Brown’s campaign. I did, on metropolitan government, LEIFFER 4 and I participated in some of the brain trust meetings prior to his election. After his election, a few months after, I received a telephone call asking if I would come up for a talk with the governor relative to taking a position in the governor’s office. Of course I went, and the title which was given to me was research secretary. This is an euphemistic title for the speech writer, but actually I did very little speech writing. I was assigned three policy responsibility roles. One dealt with the reorganization of state government, and I headed up a task force which made its report finally, and which resulted in the organization we now have— the agency structure in state government— and then the third role was a relationship with state and local governments and state and local government organizations. So I appeared for the governor, during the year that I was there, as his representative when he could not, at meetings of the Board of Regents and of the Board of Education. Naturally, I became acquainted with the personnel in the Department of Education and on the Board of Education. JG: Could you tell me what the boards were like back in those days? DL: Well, there were very fine people on both boards of course, but the Board of Education had the responsibility for state policy for elementary education, secondary education, as well as the state colleges, and it meant that there was very little attention or time available to give to the great problems of the state college system which was developing and growing. Many in the system felt they were second-class citizens everywhere they went. It was kind of an almost paranoic feeling. JG: When they went to the University, to the state board or wherever they went. DL: When the Act was passed— the Donahoe Act— and the governor’s office supported it completely, it provided for the establishment of a new agency known as the Board of Trustees of the California State College system. JG: Whose idea was that? DL: I don’t think it was any particular person’s idea. I think it just developed in the course of a good many conversations. The idea of a divorce was clear and had been for some time. The thought of calling this the ’’Board of Trustees of the California State College” system was to provide a board which would be in the same position in relation to the state colleges as the Board of Regents was to the University of California. The proposal did LEIFFER 5 place upon this board, as president, the governor. The presiding officer is the governor, in both instances. Ex-officio memberships were quite similar from state officials— the lieutenant governor, et cetera. By legislation, however, the term of office was established at four years because the constitution does not permit the creation of a legislative body with terms longer than four years, so subsequently we had to have a constitutional amendment that extended the term to eight years. JG: Tell me about the Master Plan [Survey] Team. Who were some of the people that were prominent? DL: In the Master Plan . . . that was critical in relation to the development of the role we*re talking about now. The chairman of that was Arthur Coons. JG: How was he picked? DL: By the governor. And in fact, that before I was on the governor’s staff. Representing the University was Dean McHenry, and Glenn Dumke was from the state college system. They were the principal individuals. Clark Kerr was active within it, too. Clark was then the president of the University of California. JG: Did they select Coons as chairman because he would be disinterested? DL: Yes . . . yes, and of course there was representation from the Department of Education for the junior college program, which was a tremendously important higher education factor in the state. JG: Do you remember who that was? DL: I can’t recall the name at this time. I attended a number of meetings as representative of the governor, though I was not on the committee. JG: Where did they meet? DL: Different places, sometimes in Sacramento and sometimes in Los Angeles. I think they also met in San Francisco. JG: Arthur Coons’ secretary is still active, up at Occidental. DL: Well, she’s one person I suggest you talk to. He performed a great role in his capacity as chairman of that committee. The private institutions which he represented are just as deeply concerned in the public education program as they are in their own because there is an LEIFFER 6 interrelatedness and in some instances, a competition for status and for funds. JG: Did the Master Plan Committee depend upon position papers that were developed by individuals? DL: No, I think they did a great deal of work themselves. But the person I would talk to about that besides Glenn Dumke would be Dean McHenry. Dean McHenry is retired now, he has been chancellor for the University of California at Santa Cruz, and I can give you his address. JG: I would like to talk to him. DL: Perhaps we can spend some time talking about other individuals who might be of some interest to you as you do your work. JG: Good. DL: In your letter suggesting topics, there is one item which is not mentioned which I will now mention because I think it is of some interest. This occurred when I had the title of administrative officer. Would you like for me to back up a bit on this thing? JG: Please. I*d like to know, where did that title come from? DL: When the Board of Trustees held its first meeting, which, I think was in August 1960, I had prepared the agenda for that meeting as secretary to the governor, and one of the items on it was the suggestion that certain committees be set up within the board including one committee on personnel, charged with the responsibility of seeking a chancellor and of setting up an interim administration until the chancellor was selected. I had completed my year of leave from San Diego State and was ready to return to San Diego State. This committee that was set up by the board came into my office immediately after the meeting had been concluded and asked me if I would serve as secretary to the board and as staff man for the board. I said at that time that I appreciated their interest but that I could not visualize that role and that title, and that I felt like that whoever took it should have a more responsible assignment than was suggested by that title. They asked me for my opinion on it, and I said that I had no opinion about title really, but I did about salary, and I said if I were to be selected, I would request a salary of at least 100 more than the top salary paid to any state college president. I felt this was a matter of importance, not from a LEIFFER 7 personal point of view, but from the status of the office that was being created, and that whoever held that office had to be in a position vis-a-vis the state college presidents who were a pretty independent group or he would be ineffective in his role. This committee did not go along with this thought at the time, and that concluded it, and they held some other interviews. We returned to San Diego, and my son enrolled as a freshman at San Diego State, and I enrolled as a returning alien in the faculty corps. I had a telephone call from Lou [is H. ] Heilbron asking if I would come up for an interview. I agreed to, but before I did, I talked with my friend John Carr, who was not only a member of the board, but was Director of Finance for the State of California. I said that if this offer is given to me, what kind of support will I get from the Department of Finance, because I think it’s critical. And he said, ”What kind of support do you think you need?” I said, HTwo things. One is that the amount allocated of something like $250,000 for this office for a year is an impossibly small item and we can not not operate. We cannot have a central office, with the responsibility for the administration of this program of this magnitude, with that amount of money.” ”H

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