John Widmer and Kurt Erichsen met in 1983 at the Old West End Festival in Toledo, Ohio. John served as the editor of the Toledo Area Gay and Lesbian Affiliation (TAGALA) newsletter which was published from 1983 - 2019. Kurt is the creator of Murphy's Manor, a LGBTQIA+ comic set in a fictionalized version of Toledo. In their interview, John and Kurt discuss their personal and professional lives as well as memories about Toledo's gay and lesbian community in the 1980s and beyond